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Post #1Most people with Kevlar are mostly known to be hostile and invincible.
All im saying is that this ruins the gameplay for me to even help test this game.
Its near impossible to find anyone with all that power to be friendly and that it is so difficult to survive without them wasting nice ammo onto naked people wielding rocks.
I hope the devs could gradully concerntrate on the OP kevlar and M4s a bit more and make the experience of rust enjoyable.
This gave me an example of how me and 6 others with fair amount of leather armour and a few m4s and mp5s, were settled within a base when 3 other kevlar dudes had overtaken us all!
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I understand what you mean but it also gives the game a challenge. I myself get killed alot by players in kevlar but it doesn't mean i want the kevlar and m4's out. Kevlar isn't invincible, Just harder to kill.
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Yea, it seems like a steep curve of power.. I'll agree
what server are you playing on currently? maybe your 6 and my 6+ should ally up. (when the hacking dies off)
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Kevlar and m4s just happens to be current meta gear, tbh though 6-7 of you should be able to take on 3 players in Kevlar especially in defending a base unless they got the drop on you by building in and shooting from above but that's just poor building on your part. Just really depends on how good either side is at aiming and heal spamming lol(which is prob what they were doing as well as thats what almost all players do in extended combat) The op part about Kevlar and M4s are how easy they are to get. Its no fun when the best gear in the game only takes me like 2-3 hours from fresh spawn to get (note that was my first time only takes me like an hour if I am fresh no bps now.) If I have blueprints its only about waiting for furnace to smelt my ore after 10-15 mins of mining.
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We're on the Aus server now we're seperated. After that I also die around 3 times from kevlar dudes.
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Hostile yes, invincible no. Invincible is a ridiculous claim as I've had it before and gotten killed due to a persons skill. Like usual, skill will always be a deciding factor in how you decide. I agree with it being hard as a freshie to start a base and I've experienced it before, but that's more or less due to a player's sociopathic tendency to just be a douche. May I recommend moving away from people and the rad zones altogether for a good start. I don't believe they should be nerfed, and if so only slightly. As to get that far in the game to get that gear takes skill, patience and time. I play on the Australian server, and theres a legend of Esco and his friend taking on 6 people. It was a 2v6 situation and he still won and that was due to his skill and there will always be people with more skill than you.
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I agree that it may suck to die like that early on, but I can't agree with nerfing what the current gear sets are for this stage of testing. And realistically if I was naked and someone had Kevlar and we both had handguns. I'd have to be batshit crazy to go toe to toe, either that or have some serious lucky and skill to accomplish the taste. Kevlar is designed to protect you from bullets, and it does just what it's suppose to. I think they could revisit how healing works though. This isn't an MMO and magic medical kits should (IMO) operate differently. I'd like to see timers in place for food while in combat mode too. If you scarf food during combat you end up with a 15 second (or something) timer that restricts you from jamming food down your throat. And make sure all kits current and future (big or small) are only healing over time, not instant heals. Keep those balances in mind and people will be more strategic and not so gung ho to throw down at anything that moves.
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They should boost up the gun costs....
9mm for example should be like 50 metal, and the M4 should be somewhere around 300.
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I just wanted my text to stand out from the rest, can you really hate?
September 2010
672 PostsM4 should be 2000, 9mm 500. That way if you lose your gun its gonna hurt
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That would be WAYYYYY too expensive....
9mms suck due to recoil. Making them cost 500? I mean, it's way smaller than a metal door yet it costs 2.5 more metal.
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its fine the way it is, i can't recall how many times i killed people with kevlar when ive been wearing leather. I dont know why people whine so much about kevlar and m4 being op
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>dies 3 times > rants about kevlar and m4 being op. you know nothing about pain
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I know of their exsistence of near invincibility
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I just wanted my text to stand out from the rest, can you really hate?
September 2010
672 PostsThe metal door would also be bumped up to 2000
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Well do you all think it is too god dam easy to get kevlar and m4s?
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Last night i`ve took out group of full kevlar. Me against four. If youre bad, kevlar and m4 aint gonna save you
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Its mainly about skill and some luck, its not that hard to take out kevlar.... I quite often go out looting and leave me kevlar +m4 behind just take mp5 and leather or shotgun and leather and take out kevlar guys who attack me.
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I don't think Kevlar is over powered but I think that the jump from leather to Kevlar should be less. I think ether buff leather a bit or nerf Kevlar to get a closer jump.
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Don't make things cost MORE metal... that's backward. Make metal harder to get.
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You can kill someone in kevlar with two shots to the head from an M4 or a P250. A shotgun if you get the drop on someone is a one hit kill. Pretty sure two headshots with a pickaxe is a kill as well which is easier to do then you might think (at least if you can close the gap).
When we were running around acting like the police (er hello, that's what everyone does right..?), one of the naked guys we stopped randomly pulled a shotgun out and one shotted one of us. Can be seen below at the timeframe linked:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...JWORN-PQQ#t=12
Kevlar really isn't over powered if you've got something to shoot back with, but it's too cheap especially for being "end game" gear. You get to a point where you can make a crap ton of sets and not care. Increasing the cost of kevlar would simply be slapping a bandage on the issue. That issue being metal is too easy to get imo.
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Dat flip
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>Dies 20+ times due to bandits with M4 and Kevlar>Doesn't rant because it's just a fucking game
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I've killed a full kevlar dude as a full leather with an m4, luckily his aim sucked and I could get more hits than him
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Thats cause you suck, I go out in leather mp5 and kill people in kevlar easily, just hide and stop bitching, M4 is really underpowered already and kevlar and M4 are easy to get only 450 metal frags...
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Idk why people whine ..
I've once died 50 times ATLEAST till I met up with some people. Just quit whining and play
PST and whenever rust had ranking I was too 25/30 in deaths, you can't EScape dying... Just deal with it
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Esco does not have "skill" while he was raiding us (which he failed at doing so) he was talking over game to his buddies and we happened to hear him say that the girl in there clan actually makes the cheats for them. mt reasoning behind this is that my group had full kevlar we poke our heads around the corner and dead instantly from a pistol. (happened multiple times) there was also a LARGE difference in accuracy when they were shooting us, when they realised we could actually kill them there accuracy went from 'Can't hit the broadside of a barn' to constant headshots while both us and them were running. -end rant
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When was this raid Reiser?
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Hhahahaa reiser. I'm the girl in the group and it was clearly a joke. We do not use cheats, you were on a roof, most of the time standing still - how could we not get headshots on you all?
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I know. Are their name's like "Travis,Desty" or something like that? They always go around in their big group of cowards attacking the weak and unarmed.
There is another group that are also pretty low and they live over the ridge to the east and basically try to claim the whole plains. Anyone who goes there to get some wood so they can build a house just to survive gets attacked and murdered.
I really wonder at how some people can be so blood thirsty and in-considerate. Like they do understand that they are killing a humans npc right?
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running around naked trying to surprise and smash kevlar dudes' skulls in with a rock (and getting killed almost every single time) is half of the fun!
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The strangest thing is Rad suit parts are very common worthless and they cost nearly the same than kevlar (unless they changed it doesent played for a couple of days)
Kevlar isnt too strong but stuff is a lot to easy to get
1 think that maybe would be good is increasing the cost off guns armor and other metal parts but also make guns stronger so if smebody shoots you with a pistol you are nearly dead.
as far as i saw it you need 4 bullets for a naked guy with the p250 (hope its the right name)
I would like it if you only need around 2 shoots or 1 shoot on the head but make the ammo 2 or 3 metal instead of 1
that way hidding and make a surprise attack would be stronger. atm its a bit to much like a game with the focus on deathmatch
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