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As what I understand there is also no guarantee this game will be ever finished, everyone is literally buying the current stage of the game without any warranty it will be ever a final game. If garry decides to drop this project you are all stuck with an unfinished game, just saying.
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Wow I gueSs we better wait for the key price to drop to $10 lel
My mommy won't let me get anything more expensive online anyways. She says I'll get a virus.
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why did u pay 8$ cause of pay pal?Jeah now im so happy
i buy the game for 40$ and i must pay the fucking tax 8$ but its ok now i sleep for this day next day i play this game ^^
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im still getting pm bombed with people offering to buy this game, mostly beggars looking for free keys though
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"Hey I need a key, or an account. I have 15$ right now then tomrow 35$"
stop this shit, just buy it!
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Because tax german is 20%
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While this is true. Garry is VERY likely to finish the game. Unlike a TON of indy dev's, he actually does a pretty good job at delivering. He's also rich (apparently) so it's not like he "needs" to go find a real job which would take up his time.
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Its 19% to be precise.
Only way to avoid legal issues is to state somewhere that the game will be finished.
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No
Paypal say 20 % ??
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Hehe is the server off of eu?
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Can you give me key pls... I has vintage tf2 hats. u can get 1 het fur 1 key. plis. my mum no let me bay keyz. but i rly laik the game cuz it is like minecraft!
#Minecraft
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I think its funny that not only did you set up a kickstarter but now you think you can charge people for a beta....not to mention 7 days to die completely blows this game out of the water. Don't get me wrong I think this game will never ever make it to the top which is a shame because a lot of the footage I have seen shows it to be at least decently made. Pulling things like this "dutch auction" is exactly the kind of thing people begin to hate companies for, just charging for a beta at all is distasteful but trying to get this much money out of it is simply greedy and pathetic. The more people that find out about this the more your company is going to get a bad rep. Ask Hammerpoint how that worked out for them. Completely different kind of shady but the end result is the same. They became the laughing stock of the gaming community especially in the zombie survival genre....you really don't want that to happen to this game do you? It has so much potential to waste by getting greedy this early.
also before all you diehard gary lovers flame me I find it funny that someone claimed the guy is rich...if so why is he charging people for an unfinished game...Though i guess that explains how the grubber got rich.
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lol he never made a kickstarter
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and it was either do his own beta access store or let schmucks continue getting scammed by people selling fake keys. I'd say this is better, especially with no set price. He can't just let everyone in the beta due to server stress so constraints like this are needed. also comparing this to war z is dumb, they did literally everything wrong to earn the reputation they got.
Uhh it's a dutch auction, people dictate what price it sells for, not garry. The game could be free if people were patient enough so idk why you're blaming garry.
He's not lol you get to keep the finished product once the beta is done and the game is good to go.
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lol right lets see...let others scam people for beta keys or scam them myself...I think you shot your own foot on that comment also...war z and this are both zombie survival games therefor easy to compare...get your head out of this devs rear end and you might see the light
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how is letting people pay for a game a scam lol. I don't think you understand what the word scam means.
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All hail the mighty postal!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jFxqa79qd0
its garry!
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That's a great inverse appeal to authority fallacy. I've never seen that one before.
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can someone say me how can i report a cheater he use speedhack also wallhack and one hit hack.
He comes to me with the stone one hit I'm dead also my house is destory :( with a stone wtf.
Please help me i want to report him.
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I got a question:
If my friend buy from his paypal 2 keys and he give one to me, will it work?
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yes
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If i want to buy a key and they sell out every time i try when do you estimate that business will slow down? so other people can get them? it's just i have only a visa pre-paid for 25$ and i doubt it will reach that point any time soon.
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Today they sold out at $30.xx. Yesterday it was $34.5x. Two days ago it was like $37.xx. So as you can see the price is starting to fall a LOT faster because there are nowhere near as many people willing to pay over $40 now. I'm guessing in the next week you should start to see the last 50 keys each day sell for under $30.
Just wait a little longer, you should get your chance. BTW, the $25 mark will be at 5:30 PM EST. Just check the price at 4:30 and see how many keys are left. I check once a day when I get done working.
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okay thanks,i've just been watching this on youtube and it looks like loads of fun. Hope you guys get it on Steam :D
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Hopefully ill get one soon :/
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Your a gold member, you of all people should get it.
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Keys haven't really dropped to $5 and gold is only $5 so I don't see why they should be priority
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god these comments are hilarious. Thanks.
still, the best thing to come from Rust was all the bad english. "wtf my account is hack -_-"
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I'm sad i can't buy Rust because I'm 15 and paypal asks me a bank card :'(
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I bought Rust on the site, how long until I get a key?
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Whoop, nevermind. Just got the key
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This is EXACTLY why they went with "Auctions" over a low and reasonable pre-set price, like other indie-development operations. This is also EXACTLY why all of my gaming buddies, family, and friends will NOT be getting involved in "Rust" at all until its final release. In fact, there is a good chance we'll pass on it to play something else all together. It's a neat idea, combining the best and most creative elements found in other games and implementing a composite of them together and labeling it as your own. However, charging people for "pre-alphas" is where I draw the line. I love to play a good game as much as the next guy - All the more if I helped shape and design it as a designer or tester. But, you're not going to see me or anyone I know spending money on any version of a game that is incomplete and honestly, sub-par. The fact that the "Dutch Auctions" are selling keys frequently, saddens me.
The best games I've played, are ones that allowed the help of their most interested parties by allowing them to test, and submit ideas and fixes for the future release of the final product. It's bad enough that you'd make people who would usually volunteer for this, pay - but to auction it in prices that exceed new-releases on the shelf is tongue-in-cheek, petty. As mentioned above, my family, friends, and vast circles of gaming friends have all discussed how "Rust" is being sold in such a manner as a "pre-release" and that fact alone is a major turn off for every one of us.
Believe me or not, that's your choice. As long as your making money from spoiled kids with rich parents, I doubt you care.
So much for the days of voluntary-community testers. It was fun while it lasted. I guarantee you, what free time I may have once considered putting into helping progress the development of this game, is assuredly going elsewhere.
I bid you good-day and wish you the best of luck with your product. I hope you make enough sales to the pampered and spoiled youth, because I can assure you, none of the hard-working adults of the middle class are going to tank tens, hundreds, or thousands into this project. Your primary audience will assuridly be "lacking" major groups that other games will have the support of for this "auction" stunt alone. The rest of us with integrity and limits to our finances in the working class will be doing more productive things with our free time...like not spending money to VOLUNTEER our free time in YOUR game development.
Removing the auction, and restoring the good-old days of volunteer assistance in game development is the only possibility that could change my mind in this project. Nothing short of doing away with payed volunteering. If filling your pockets is more important to you than making a community of potential future customers and helpful developers happy, then so be it. Just let me know if you decide to run for office in the future, because I think you'd fit with the rest of the politicians we're all so pleased with in Washington right now.
"Two classes of people lose money; those who are too weak to guard what they have; those who win money by trick. They both lose in the end."
-Henry Ford- April 1st, 1922
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This guy is probably right. After all, you're biding for what it seems to be a very early version of a game. Also you don't get any proof of development.
What if devs decide to grab the money and move on to another project? You'll have to deal with an unfinished product you've actually paid for.
I don't think that's gonna happen, but paying full price for a game in this state of development is just plain absurd.
I hope most of keys are sold within < 5$ range. I have seen good finished games costing less than that, and i'm not even taking into account steam sales and etc.
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Anyone who spends money on an unfinished product, with NO GUARANTEE of a future release should consider having their Mom suspend their allowance. Because no one but a complete idiot or small child would ever invest hard-earned money like this.
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Why don't u kids just buy prepaid credit cards at the stores. Do some chores to get the dough
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I have dropped money on Beta games for a few indy devs. However those games are already vast and stable enough to be considered release-ready (such as Michał Marcinkowski's King Arthur's Gold). Those games are sold at a pre-set cost of like $5 which is always lower than the release cost of $10/$15. Usually the beta is open and there is nothing to require me to pay, I simply do it because the dev makes a great game and is looking to provide a great product (not cash in).
This auction route is obviously inspired by Kickstarter which is the dumbest thing ever for video games as it ends up requiring people to PAY for a half complete beta with no promise it'll ever be finished. The prices for the games are never "indy" prices either, as they usually run $15-20 for the access which is the MAX an indy game should run at final release.
If Garry wants a game that will REALLY last and bring greatness, he shouldn't be worrying about selling access to the lowest common demonimator that has free reign of his parents credit cards.
I am in the process of creating a desktop stock trading platform for a specific broker (since they don't have one) and I am offering free beta to anyone that wants to give it a shot. In fact, I plan on giving the testers a discount on the final product for their effort in helping to make the product. I make my money trading and am making the software for the benefit of others.
The best products come from making the customer come first, not pandering to whiny little kids who aren't likely to actually do the job of finding and reporting bugs (which is the objective of alpha and beta).
Just my 2 cents worth though as I've done a lot of beta testing in the past when people cared about making a game for the accolades not the Benjamins.
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It saddens me that some people think like that. Is there something wrong with being willing to pay extra for something? Im my choice.. Or your choice.. Or anyone else who is willing to shell out the dough. Its choice. To be upset over something as simple as -choice- is a silly thing. Flaming Garry about it is senseless. Personally, I shelled out 50 bucks.. because -I wanted to.- I loved GMod, and even in its unstable/buggy/unfinished state, I love Rust. Its great. I chose to give extra cash from my -tiny- wallet to help fund a game I wish to see finished. And if it doesnt get finished? Well, I sure as hell had fun along the way. Im not going to rage over it. Shit happens.. and if it gets scrapped, it was done so for a reason. That is just the risk you take.. The risk you -choose- to take.
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LOL someone bought a key for $200, i also have to buy the key in the middle of class i have $55 and that was kinda my budget... I guess around 11 ish the keys are down to $50
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what's the highest a key's sold for
because lmfao
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The people paying for the game at the auction are supporting the development. They're supporting it financially, they're showing us that the game is good enough for them to pay for and they're alpha testing.
The people joining the forums and moaning that they can't buy it for $5 aren't doing anything for us.
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Garry You may be right that people that ask to get the game for 5 USD are ''useless' but what about those that pay 200+ for it?, To be honest i think you are just trying to increase your margin with this dutch action stuff, If you wanted really to be fair you should sell a limited number of key based on what the game is really worth, Like this who bid more get a key and those who refuse to pay 60 USD + get nothing, In end the only winner in this situation is you,
Alael
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Is it possible to be able to somehow make the auction different because in my timezone it finishes around 4am. Just a question.
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