1. Post #41

    June 2013
    41 Posts
    http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1281061


    MY list of thing i like to see



    1: make pvp zones or pvp free zones / ----> starter zon for beginners

    2: possible to make better axe - get more Wood per chopp

    3: mapping system with cordinates

    4: friend list

    5: Guild/clan - ability to create Guild/CLAN, add or remove players

    6: abillity to go fishing

    7: uppgrade food from animals (currently chicken breast from all animals)

    8: add new minerals etc silver, gold, uranium, titanium

    9: fix wall's so they cant be glitched through

    10: new items for house, lanthern, chair, table, torches, bed, fireplace (big in stone with chimmney)

    11: add more animals etc wolf, fox, buffel, cow, horse

    12: add items: Binocholars, shovel, pickaxe, saw, fishingpole

    13: Add berries, muschroom, fruit and vegestebles

    14: ability to plot tha ground and grow your own food (1 area of plowed ground around size of a foundation)

    15: make so you cant build close to other players building 1-2 foundations och lenght away or more, but also ability to allow players to build close (etc your friends)

    16: have a permition list on your doors so you can add players that are allowed to open them.

    17: ability to break objects you built your self (and at faster rate)

    18: get some wood back for breaking YOUR OWN objects - a window that cost 20 give you 5-10 wood back when you break it, other players that break your door get nogthing.

    19: players that die turn in to zombies

    20: add an area chatt to and ability to change between area chatt and world chatt.

    21: add more zombies and possibly animals or other nps that can attack and kill you to


    this is what i can think of for now :)

    (added a few from my original post)



    post opinion instead of just dumb and disagree

    i am creative you that just post dumb o dislike aint
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  2. Post #42
    Caboose176's Avatar
    June 2013
    172 Posts
    http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1281061

    1: make pvp zones or pvp free zones


    (added a few from my original post)
    No just no this just ruins the survival aspect of the game adding a non pvp zone is useless and why? to make a base which cannot be raided or protected is pointless the whole point of the game is to SURVIVE once again adding a non pvp zone would be a terrible idea....
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  3. Post #43

    June 2013
    41 Posts
    No just no this just ruins the survival aspect of the game adding a non pvp zone is useless and why? to make a base which cannot be raided or protected is pointless the whole point of the game is to SURVIVE once again adding a non pvp zone would be a terrible idea....

    not nessecary, currently the game map is 225 square kilometres, they probebly make it bigger later on even if you put an area that 25 square kilometres you still have a huge area to pvp on, and all players dont like the pvp

    take any mmo game and you get proof of that.

    some people want to play with out beeing killed from players of have their house looted and trashed by other players that are to lazy to gather stuff them self.

    there is still zombies, and hoppfully they add more zombies and possible animals that can attack and kill you to.
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  4. Post #44
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    June 2013
    172 Posts
    not nessecary, currently the game map is 225 square kilometres, they probebly make it bigger later on even if you put an area that 25 square kilometres you still have a huge area to pvp on, and all players dont like the pvp

    take any mmo game and you get proof of that.

    some people want to play with out beeing killed from players of have their house looted and trashed by other players that are to lazy to gather stuff them self.

    there is still zombies, and hoppfully they add more zombies and possible animals that can attack and kill you to.
    umm I dont think its that big from what I have seen on youtube the map isnt that big and chenarus the arma 2 dayz map ummm thats 225km but I reckons it trashes the survival aspect of the game if you want safe zones go play warz not rust...

  5. Post #45
    DrFox's Avatar
    June 2013
    47 Posts
    not nessecary, currently the game map is 225 square kilometres, they probebly make it bigger later on even if you put an area that 25 square kilometres you still have a huge area to pvp on, and all players dont like the pvp

    take any mmo game and you get proof of that.

    some people want to play with out beeing killed from players of have their house looted and trashed by other players that are to lazy to gather stuff them self.

    there is still zombies, and hoppfully they add more zombies and possible animals that can attack and kill you to.
    Yeah but you forget this game is about surviving the players. A safe zone is completely senseless. You want to be safe? you build a house, team up with people, build and defend a village. That's how Garry wants the game to be.
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  6. Post #46

    June 2013
    79 Posts
    I'm actually against no-pvp zones, but in the right context in might work. i.e starting off waking up in a camp, but there is no food/ resources in the camp, forcing players to leave to find food + resources. It might help the noobs who start the game in the middle of the night, with no idea of how to move/ pick up things etc

    i wouldn't care either way- im a bandit, but the rest of the list looks okay to me
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  7. Post #47
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    June 2013
    172 Posts
    Yeah but you forget this game is about surviving the players. A safe zone is completely senseless. You want to be safe? you build a house, team up with people, build and defend a village. That's how Garry wants the game to be.
    EXACTLY! EXACTLY THAT.

  8. Post #48

    June 2013
    41 Posts
    I'm actually against no-pvp zones, but in the right context in might work. i.e starting off waking up in a camp, but there is no food/ resources in the camp, forcing players to leave to find food + resources. It might help the noobs who start the game in the middle of the night, with no idea of how to move/ pick up things etc

    i wouldn't care either way- im a bandit, but the rest of the list looks okay to me

    some sort of starting area

    a small area with only common loot as wood, minerals and animals, no build zone and no pvp a small area to get used to the game.

    Make an area with a high concret wall aroudn it and not possibel to build around it, ramps from inside to walk out but no way from outside to get in, so once you get the hang of it you leave the area and then unable to get back
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  9. Post #49
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    June 2013
    43 Posts
    You really need a handwatch for that? Woah, you're a special guy.
    u wot m8? where do you see a handwatch in my sentence? its a bed. you can sleep in it. as far as i know you cant sleep in watches... geez
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  10. Post #50
    Caboose176's Avatar
    June 2013
    172 Posts
    u wot m8? where do you see a handwatch in my sentence? its a bed. you can sleep in it. as far as i know you cant sleep in watches... geez
    Only in croatia eh?
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  11. Post #51
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    January 2012
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    PVP zones would limit gameplay, they said it already they are not limiting gameplay or forcing you to do a certain thing.
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  12. Post #52
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    June 2013
    172 Posts
    PVP zones would limit gameplay, they said it already they are not limiting gameplay or forcing you to do a certain thing.
    Agreed.
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  13. Post #53

    June 2013
    41 Posts
    PVP zones would limit gameplay, they said it already they are not limiting gameplay or forcing you to do a certain thing.
    Well then they need pvp free zone since other wise they force all to play pvp ^^


    Fun that i post a list with 21 suggestions an people only Whine about the pvp thing, and most only complain. If you dont like it come with constructive critics or make suggestion of your own.
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  14. Post #54
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    June 2013
    19 Posts
    The ones below I agree with. Friend list is key. Though like everyone says this is Alpha and they're just trying to get the basic game mechanics sorted. I'm sure as beta roles around we'll see many of these things. Like all things that invite opinion I'm sure a few of the ideas will be gems and taken in to consideration by the devs. It'd be nice if more people posted up some ideas with explanation!

    Digging would be nice, would allow for trenches/subterranean dwellings and the hiding of things easier.
    http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1281061

    MY list of thing i like to see
    3: mapping system with cordinates
    4: friend list
    6: abillity to go fishing
    8: add new minerals etc silver, gold, uranium, titanium
    14: ability to plow the ground and grow your own food (1 area of plowed ground around size of a foundation)
    16: have a permition list on your doors so you can add players that are allowed to open them.

  15. Post #55
    Caboose176's Avatar
    June 2013
    172 Posts
    ugh whats the point of a safe one a base which cant be raided? a place in which people have no need to fear other players attacking them? it removes the survival aspect of the game.... hurr durr?

  16. Post #56
    vedran_cro's Avatar
    June 2013
    43 Posts
    Only in croatia eh?
    what was that supposed to mean?
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  17. Post #57
    TCB
    I AM A FIRE LORD
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    Well then they need pvp free zone since other wise they force all to play pvp ^^


    Fun that i post a list with 21 suggestions an people only Whine about the pvp thing, and most only complain. If you dont like it come with constructive critics or make suggestion of your own.
    they should add a pvp free zone in tf2 too because otherwise they'd be forcing all to play pvp


    it's a pvp game. if you're that afraid of other players, learn to hide better.
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  18. Post #58
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    January 2012
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    they should add a pvp free zone in tf2 too because otherwise they'd be forcing all to play pvp


    it's a pvp game. if you're that afraid of other players, learn to hide better.
    QFT
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  19. Post #59
    DrFox's Avatar
    June 2013
    47 Posts
    Well then they need pvp free zone since other wise they force all to play pvp ^^


    Fun that i post a list with 21 suggestions an people only Whine about the pvp thing, and most only complain. If you dont like it come with constructive critics or make suggestion of your own.
    The game is about pvp. If you don't like it, don't play.
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  20. Post #60

    June 2013
    41 Posts
    The game is about pvp. If you don't like it, don't play.
    Never said i didnt like it, but know there are several people who dont like it.

    But then again nobody like to be killed 5 times in a row when out farming Wood only to lose all over and over again.

    Any one that say they do lie.
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  21. Post #61
    TCB
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    the game isn't aimed at those people, then.

  22. Post #62
    InsaneParrot's Avatar
    January 2012
    1,262 Posts
    Never said i didnt like it, but know there are several people who dont like it.

    But then again nobody like to be killed 5 times in a row when out farming Wood only to lose all over and over again.

    Any one that say they do lie.
    Several people out of the hundreds that play? Sure, let's just ruin the game for the 99%.

  23. Post #63
    DrFox's Avatar
    June 2013
    47 Posts
    Never said i didnt like it, but know there are several people who dont like it.

    But then again nobody like to be killed 5 times in a row when out farming Wood only to lose all over and over again.

    Any one that say they do lie.
    I'm sorry for those people, but the game is actually about that. Surviving, being constantly in danger and, of course, getting killed until you're good enough. Welcome to the non click-to-win gaming.

  24. Post #64

    June 2013
    19 Posts
    I would personally like to see a handwatch, so that we can know when the night is coming.
    As in reply to you being rude to the previous guy who replied to this, it clearly says handwatch right there, no it's not a bed, and yes it would be useless
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  25. Post #65
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    June 2013
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    1: make pvp zones or pvp free zones / ----> starter zon for beginners
    Gotta disagree. One of the biggest points of the game is the wild, desperate aspect of it. Nothing and no-one (short of a friendly person) is going to save you from your fellow hatchet-wielding man, except you. If roughly a few thousand people got tossed out into the same wild area with no warning, no nearby civilization, and nothing but a hatchet, medical supplies and a flare, you could bet cold hard cash that at least one of them (if not more) would start beating people's heads in with the hatchet for their supplies. One of the most important rules of both life and Rust is that there's always going to be nasty people willing to do nasty things to you if it means they survive and/or profit as a result. All you can do to deal with these people is fight them or run away very fast. And if you have like-minded friends with you, these kinds of people (who prey on loners most of the time) will likely leave you be in favor of not dying to a painful group beating/shooting.

    Also, if you happen to be just starting out, learning to avoid strangers via hatchet-induced death is quite effective. It also teaches you that the few people who will not kill you on sight and will actually have your back in a fight are worth more than any resources in the world.

  26. Post #66

    June 2013
    5 Posts
    I think it would be awesome for sniper rifles to be in the game

    Edited:

    I would like something like an average hunting rifle like you would
    Go hunting with in real life like a bolt action
    30-06 or a lever action 30-30 or even a 308 bolt action rifle or
    Even just a compound bow not a cross bow though
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  27. Post #67

    June 2013
    41 Posts
    Several people out of the hundreds that play? Sure, let's just ruin the game for the 99%.

    How would a small pvp free area/Zone (5-10%) of whole map ruin the game for 99% of the players?

    You just stupid that comment that
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  28. Post #68
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    June 2013
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    How would a small pvp free area/Zone (5-10%) of whole map ruin the game for 99% of the players?

    You just stupid that comment that
    If you're going to argue a point with someone, calling them stupid for having a differing opinion is a very bad strategy, especially when your grammar is apparently lacking. I chalked it up to not being a native English speaker to start, which is perfectly normal and there's nothing wrong with that. However, the fact that you're resorting to insulting others with differing opinions makes it seem more like you are the "stupid" one, as a result of comparative intelligence. By all means, you may be a highly-intelligent person in other instances, but your insults coupled with your lack of proper grammar give others the impression that you are not.

    I mean you no personal insult in saying all of this, I'm just pointing out something interesting in the hopes of helping spread knowledge.

  29. Post #69

    June 2013
    41 Posts
    If you're going to argue a point with someone, calling them stupid for having a differing opinion is a very bad strategy, especially when your grammar is apparently lacking. I chalked it up to not being a native English speaker to start, which is perfectly normal and there's nothing wrong with that. However, the fact that you're resorting to insulting others with differing opinions makes it seem more like you are the "stupid" one, as a result of comparative intelligence. By all means, you may be a highly-intelligent person in other instances, but your insults coupled with your lack of proper grammar give others the impression that you are not.

    I mean you no personal insult in saying all of this, I'm just pointing out something interesting in the hopes of helping spread knowledge.

    See it like this if 10% of all players dislikecthe pvp and they get a corner at ens o map edge on around 5-10% of map total area.

    How can this ruin the game for 90-99% of the rest of the players??

    Pretty easy thos that like pvp just keep away from this area, even make people that have just made pvp kill be unable to go and hide in this area for up to 30 min efter making pvp actions.

    I van argue for this in a good way even if i wouldnt use the area My self but i think it should be there for thos who want.

  30. Post #70

    June 2013
    75 Posts
    there should be a flashlight that you can turn on and off and that runs out of batteries, so you would need to find more batteries to use it.

    Edited:

    No just no this just ruins the survival aspect of the game adding a non pvp zone is useless and why? to make a base which cannot be raided or protected is pointless the whole point of the game is to SURVIVE once again adding a non pvp zone would be a terrible idea....
    there should be very small non pvp zones around where you spawn, like if you take two steps you are out of the safe zone. this way no one can get killed right away, but they cannot survive in the non pvp zones

    Edited:

    Well then they need pvp free zone since other wise they force all to play pvp ^^


    Fun that i post a list with 21 suggestions an people only Whine about the pvp thing, and most only complain. If you dont like it come with constructive critics or make suggestion of your own.
    maybe there could be one server non pvp and one that is. that would be in the far off future though.

  31. Post #71
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    June 2013
    1,279 Posts
    See it like this if 10% of all players dislikecthe pvp and they get a corner at ens o map edge on around 5-10% of map total area.

    How can this ruin the game for 90-99% of the rest of the players??

    Pretty easy thos that like pvp just keep away from this area, even make people that have just made pvp kill be unable to go and hide in this area for up to 30 min efter making pvp actions.

    I van argue for this in a good way even if i wouldnt use the area My self but i think it should be there for thos who want.
    I don't mean to be rude, but although I disagree with your idea, my main issue is with your conduct in attempting to debate it, not the idea itself.

    My reply stated the logical fallacy of insulting someone with a specific term ("stupid"), and, in the very same sentence, acting in a way that would earn you the misfortune of being called that insult. In doing so, you made yourself seem unintelligent while at the same time calling others capable of conversing and debating politely, unlike yourself, unintelligent. The sheer strangeness of that logic boggles my mind, honestly, but this being the internet I really should have expected it. I hope you eventually realize the fallacy in your actions and strive to correct it.

    [SUB][SUB]Also, on an unrelated note, I apparently get all professor-y/Spock-ish and shit after taking my buspirone.[/SUB][/SUB]

  32. Post #72
    Dennab
    June 2013
    4 Posts
    i want in this game a purchase page so i can buy this game
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  33. Post #73
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    June 2013
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    i want in this game a purchase page so i can buy this game
    Probably won't happen for a long time since the game is in closed alpha at the moment, horribly buggy and incomplete, and is restricted to a select group of people recruited during a short period of time that was ended prematurely due to leaks on reddit and similar sites. It's in such a premature state that it could barely if at all pay people to play it, much less be sold.

    In other words, that's probably not happening for a very long time. And don't go asking for alpha/beta/etc. keys either to play right now, that's a fast track to getting permabanned.

  34. Post #74
    Dennab
    June 2013
    4 Posts
    Probably won't happen for a long time since the game is in closed alpha at the moment, horribly buggy and incomplete, and is restricted to a select group of people recruited during a short period of time that was ended prematurely due to leaks on reddit and similar sites. It's in such a premature state that it could barely if at all pay people to play it, much less be sold.

    In other words, that's probably not happening for a very long time. And don't go asking for alpha/beta/etc. keys either to play right now, that's a fast track to getting permabanned.
    ok
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  35. Post #75

    June 2013
    171 Posts
    The simple reason pvp-free zones wouldn't work is that they'd get spawn camped. The moment you crossed from non-pvp to ffa, you'd cop an axe to the face.
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  36. Post #76

    June 2013
    11 Posts
    The simple reason pvp-free zones wouldn't work is that they'd get spawn camped. The moment you crossed from non-pvp to ffa, you'd cop an axe to the face.
    Except people that are leaving the spawn camp only have basic gear. Who would camp outside of it to kill nubs with a med pack, hatchet, and flare?

  37. Post #77
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    Except people that are leaving the spawn camp only have basic gear. Who would camp outside of it to kill nubs with a med pack, hatchet, and flare?
    Many, many, many annoying people. People love to troll. Just look at games like WarZ where that happens all the time (safezone camping).

  38. Post #78

    March 2012
    35 Posts
    How would a small pvp free area/Zone (5-10%) of whole map ruin the game for 99% of the players?

    You just stupid that comment that

    You understand that people would just camp outside the zone right? And would we allow farming in the PvP free zone? cause if so people can just stay in as long as they want and farm until they have everything without any risk. Obviously having a dedicated non hostile area would limit building otherwise everyone would build there and it would be cluttered because why build out in a dangerous area if you can be safe?


    Do you see why it's either all or nothing? The game isn't meant to be as friendly as minecraft.

  39. Post #79

    June 2013
    41 Posts
    You understand that people would just camp outside the zone right? And would we allow farming in the PvP free zone? cause if so people can just stay in as long as they want and farm until they have everything without any risk. Obviously having a dedicated non hostile area would limit building otherwise everyone would build there and it would be cluttered because why build out in a dangerous area if you can be safe?


    Do you see why it's either all or nothing? The game isn't meant to be as friendly as minecraft.

    Easy to control pvp-free zone should not have high value loot/rare loot, and not contain any nonplayer buildings.
    So they can not farm to the top safe.

    Possible to add more zombies/mutants or hostile animals to that area.
    So still get some survival feelings just not the constant house looting and killing.

    The area should be in a corner on the edge of the map so it dont affect the pvpers to much, camping outside is a risk they have to take if they want better loot.

  40. Post #80

    June 2013
    171 Posts
    An alternative solution to address the same problem may be to have it so that you get 3 "free" kills: the first 3 times you're killed (wether it be by another player or an npc), it treats it as being knocked out instead, a random 50% of your non-starter gear is up for grabs by the killer, and he is otherwise oblivious to the fact that you're knocked out rather than dead. You then revive 2(?) minutes later in place, with some notification that you can't take another round of that!

    This solution allows you to ease into the game a bit more, doesn't encourage dicks, because to everyone but you, you appear to be dead, and doesn't allow exploits because you've only got 3, and you lose half your gear rather than duplicating it.
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