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    This is the fourth version of the headphone buying guide. It's been a while since I've changed much here. As before, if you need help or have questions shoot me a PM or use the thread. (The latter will be more efficacious probably.)

    (I'd go right out and say go ahead and buy them if your budget were to be in that range if it weren't for the fact that different people need different styles of headphones. Quality in audio is often (to a degree) subjective in nature. )

    I've cut out a lot of the bulk the old OP had, since very few people seemed to find most of the information of use. Hopefully condensing the OP will help people to see the post requirements. As always, Head-Fi.org is your best friend. Any high-level questions should betaken there if possible, as should questions involving headphones above the $500-mark (we'd love to hear about them though!). Ebay is an acceptable option that's often cheaper, give using it some thought. (It carries risks as always though.)


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    Things I've seen in the thread frequently that need to be addressed:
    1. Don't buy a 'head-set', don't even consider it. Buy a desktop microphone for around $20, separately from your headphones. Clip-on microphones work well, they even sell ones that will clip onto headphones. (Desktop mics are still better generally)
    2. If someone hasn't answered your question within a few days, send me a PM and I'll do my best to help you.
    3. Use Foobar2000 for playing your music, see the additional resources at the bottom of the OP for more information.
    4. See how to post below.
    5. Look below at the "Terms to Know"



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    [HR][/HR]Basic (and some not so basic) Terms to Know:
    Circumaural: Covers the ears

    Supra-Aural (Not a term I've seen often, in my experience most s-a headphones are on the cheap (low quality side)): Sits on the ears, sorta covers

    Open air: Headphones are open to the air, sound may "leak out" or "leak in". Generally they're better for long term use (less hot feeling after a long periods of use) but aren't as good for gaming (can echo through microphones as a result of their leaking.) or listening in public places (Assume no one wants to hear your music) (If you're a performer avoid those headphones)

    Closed air: Headphones are closed to the air (Obviously, given the name.), they tend to be less comfortable after long periods of time or in hot areas (depends on the pair though)

    Semi-open: A combination of closed and open air traits, really varies from pair to pair.

    Impedance (click me for a better explanation): Measured in ohms (Ω), impedance is a measure of resistance. If you can't understand it, you could read up on it - but if you're not really into high-end audio you probably will want to just ask someone who knows what they're talking about. It can be a difficult concept to grasp at first. Just think of it as the need for more power, higher impedance means you'll need more to "drive" the pair. (i.e. you'll need an amp) (Read more here.)

    Frequency Response (important): A measure of the sounds which an audio device may reproduce, measured in hertz. You'll need to read up on this if you're serious about buying anything decent on your own. More range generally = better headphones (oversimplification, but if you don't already know those terms it's a place to start from)




    ~(Taken from head-fi below)~

    Before buying headphones
    1. Think about the whole system and budget for that. I canít stress this enough. There are really good sounding headphones to suit almost any budget and any system requirements, but you really need to know what youíre getting into. Don't just think about the headphone. If youíre looking to buy a headphone, you also need to know what else you need (or don't need) to make it sound good. If youíre buying a reference quality headphone, they most often (not always) require dedicated home components to bring out the qualities that people talk about. Thatís just the way it is. They require a well-matched amp that can drive them well. Many will be revealing of poor quality recordings and low bit rate downloads if youíre using your computer. If, for example, you're interested in the HD650 because youíve read itís good, just know that you might be disappointed if you donít amp it properly, and if you amp it properly, you might be disappointed in the sound youíre getting if your source and/or recordings donít cut it. On the other side of things, there are really good headphones that sound just fine without an amp and straight out of an ipod or computer soundcard if thatís what you want. You can get good sound in a lot of different ways at almost any price point, but research what youíre looking for, and put what you need in your budget before you decide on anything. It will actually save you money in the long run.

    2. Portable amps arenít the answer. Okay, sometimes theyíre the answer, but mostly when portable headphones are involved. I know Iím going to get grief for this one, but so be it. I like portable amps, have owned some really nice ones, and have listened to a lot more. They are great for portable headphones, and do okay with some headphones designed for home use, but they do not take the place of a decent dedicated home amp when using headphones that were created for audiophile listening at home. Sure, theyíll make your headphones louder, but loudness does not equal sound quality, which is the real purpose of amplification. A properly driven headphone sounds amazing at very low volumes. If your lifestyle dictates that you need portability, then I suggest researching the many excellent choices in headphones that are not demanding when it comes to amplification. Donít rush out and get a K702 because you heard itís great with classical and expect to hear anything close to how it can sound with a portable amp. If youíre choosing a headphone that needs a amp, a portable amp may be a good stepping stone if youíre slowly building a system like I and many others did, but again, be aware of the compromise youíre making, and be happy with whatever you choose. Just think: if portable headphones were the best option for all headphones, no one would be making home amps, and thatís just not happening.

    3. Source matters. Yes, it does. High quality headphones reveal your source. Thatís their job. Garbage in, garbage out. I love my ipod, but when Iím using it, I choose headphones that sound good, but are more forgiving of my sourceís flaws when listening. If I were to use one of my more revealing headphones, I wouldnít be enjoying the music nearly as much. Whether you consider getting a good dac, a dedicated cdp, or lod for an ipod, there are a lot of different ways to go. For portable, I like choosing forgiving headphones and not worrying about amp or source; for home, I prefer the best cdp I can afford, and one day, I'd like a good turntable. Others may choose differently, but if youíre looking at getting high quality headphones, know that theyíre only as good as what youíre feeding them.

    Additional Resources for your viewing pleasure:
    http://www.head-fi.org/wiki/foobar20...uide-to-set-up
    http://www.head-fi.org/wiki/headphone-impedance
    The thread before last (v2)
    Headphone Buying Guide V3 - Come here, do not make additional threads
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  2. Post #2
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    I'm thinking about the RP-HTF600-S's to replace my headset, so I was wondering what is a good, cheap clip-on microphone just for Skype and such?

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    Okay, money's in so tempted to buy them modded headphones Who has them again? I added one of you on Steam, was going to talk.

  5. Post #5
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    Okay, money's in so tempted to buy them modded headphones Who has them again? I added one of you on Steam, was going to talk.
    It's me, PM me your steam if you want to chat.
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  6. Post #6
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    I decided to buy myself a new mic (trust starzz) because it was £10 and it sounds fucking amazing compared to my headset

    the only problem is it picks up every single click of my keyboard (it's an IBM model M) and I think everybody on skype will hate me within 10 minutes, is there anything I can do? it's a cardiod pattern

    but also, my dad co-owns an electronics company and he has some spare headphone amps that they discontinued a while ago and they are spare stock that they can't sell so I can get one for free

  7. Post #7

    April 2011
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    I decided to buy myself a new mic (trust starzz) because it was £10 and it sounds fucking amazing compared to my headset

    the only problem is it picks up every single click of my keyboard (it's an IBM model M) and I think everybody on skype will hate me within 10 minutes, is there anything I can do? it's a cardiod pattern

    but also, my dad co-owns an electronics company and he has some spare headphone amps that they discontinued a while ago and they are spare stock that they can't sell so I can get one for free
    Use push to talk? It's what I do when I play lol with my friends.

  8. Post #8
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    Use push to talk? It's what I do when I play lol with my friends.
    To be fair, push-to-talk is really annoying and removes the natural flow of a conversation, also it's another button to juggle when you're playing a game.
    I had the same problem when I moved to Mechanical + Desktop microphone, however my friends got used to it and now they don't even notice, one even said they liked the background typing.

    That or reduce the volume on the microphone and move it closer to your face.
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    Use push to talk? It's what I do when I play lol with my friends.
    Push to talk is really annoying, I don't want to hold a key every time I talk, especially when trying to play a game

    Edited:

    What Tennant said really

    I just tried it out, it worked fine and nobody seemed to complain about the clicking as I played, so it should be alright

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    April 2011
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    I have a lot of people talking in the background though, so it gets really confusing for people on skype.

    Edited:

    Also there isn't much flow when you're playing league on skype.
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    wow ok
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    You get used to push to talk though. I used voice activation on Teamspeak for a long time but I got annoyed with having to mute my microphone all the time (Least ye hear the loud barks of my dog all the time) so I switched to push to talk.

    Really weird at first, but then I got used to it and pressing my push to talk button (Middle thumb button on the G500) when I want to talk is natural for me.
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    Push to talk is fine if the button is easily accessible. Mine is on my mouse right where my thumb naturally rests. It is great with teamspeak because you can set it to transmit a couple seconds after you let go of the button too so you don't cut yourself off.
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    Anyone recommend some headphones for Gaming, Music and things like skype,teamspeak,etc? Closed Or Semi, Comfy, Something that doesn't need a fancy soundcard to get the best out of since I've only got an integrated soundcard and £100 max?

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    Htf-600s and a Xonar DG.
    ~$60 total.
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    April 2011
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    My dad picked up some Grado SR80i's today. My god, they sound almost exactly like an uncomfortable ATHM50

  16. Post #16
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    My dad picked up some Grado SR80i's today. My god, they sound almost exactly like an uncomfortable ATHM50
    Really? I'd consider them completely different, M50s are much more dark/warm than the Grados.

    Edited:

    Anyone recommend some headphones for Gaming, Music and things like skype,teamspeak,etc? Closed Or Semi, Comfy, Something that doesn't need a fancy soundcard to get the best out of since I've only got an integrated soundcard and £100 max?
    AD700s sound spot on for you, but they're a little bright (tilted towards treble a little) which some don't like, this is a good deal.

  17. Post #17
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    December 2009
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    Bought Sennheiser HD 598 today and I am blown away by its sound.

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    I'm seriously considering getting the recommended Panasonics in the OP and some clipon mic for gaming. I was considering a Logitech headset before but my friend has had awful experiences with them.

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    I'm thinking about buying a decent set of headphones; been burned by some Sennheisers that I've bought, so I'd prefer something not by them.

    Budget: $100

    Country: US

    Isolation: Circumaural I guess, as long as it's comfortable (comfort is pretty important to me)

    Purpose: Everything, pretty much. Typical use would be on desktop computer at home, portability is a plus but generally unimportant

    Music Tastes: Drum and Bass, a bunch of electronic mini/sub-genres, and hip hop/trip hop are what I listen to the most.

    Previous Experiences: Had a pair of Sennheiser HD205's and 201's. The 205's were ridiculous, absolutely crushed my head and they even caved in on themselves from how tight they were. Decent sound quality I guess? The 201's were much better in the comfort department but the sound quality wasn't as good. Not much bass, either.

    Comments: I'm seriously considering getting a pair of Sony MDR-V6. The impression I get from what people are saying is that they're probably one of the best pairs you can get for the price, but some of the padding wears out and mileage varies on comfort from long sessions, though I haven't heard any horror stories with comfort either.

    So would this pair of Sony's be good, or should I get those Panasonics or something else. I'd really like something that's more in the tier of Beats, but not overpriced garbage. More like entry-level Bose, I guess.

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    The one thing to be careful with on MDR V6's is if they're fake.
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    I'm thinking about buying a decent set of headphones; been burned by some Sennheisers that I've bought, so I'd prefer something not by them.

    Budget: $100

    Country: US

    Isolation: Circumaural I guess, as long as it's comfortable (comfort is pretty important to me)

    Purpose: Everything, pretty much. Typical use would be on desktop computer at home, portability is a plus but generally unimportant

    Music Tastes: Drum and Bass, a bunch of electronic mini/sub-genres, and hip hop/trip hop are what I listen to the most.

    Previous Experiences: Had a pair of Sennheiser HD205's and 201's. The 205's were ridiculous, absolutely crushed my head and they even caved in on themselves from how tight they were. Decent sound quality I guess? The 201's were much better in the comfort department but the sound quality wasn't as good. Not much bass, either.

    Comments: I'm seriously considering getting a pair of Sony MDR-V6. The impression I get from what people are saying is that they're probably one of the best pairs you can get for the price, but some of the padding wears out and mileage varies on comfort from long sessions, though I haven't heard any horror stories with comfort either.

    So would this pair of Sony's be good, or should I get those Panasonics or something else. I'd really like something that's more in the tier of Beats, but not overpriced garbage. More like entry-level Bose, I guess.
    Bose are also overpriced garbage.
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    I'm thinking about buying a decent set of headphones; been burned by some Sennheisers that I've bought, so I'd prefer something not by them.

    Budget: $100

    Country: US

    Isolation: Circumaural I guess, as long as it's comfortable (comfort is pretty important to me)

    Purpose: Everything, pretty much. Typical use would be on desktop computer at home, portability is a plus but generally unimportant

    Music Tastes: Drum and Bass, a bunch of electronic mini/sub-genres, and hip hop/trip hop are what I listen to the most.

    Previous Experiences: Had a pair of Sennheiser HD205's and 201's. The 205's were ridiculous, absolutely crushed my head and they even caved in on themselves from how tight they were. Decent sound quality I guess? The 201's were much better in the comfort department but the sound quality wasn't as good. Not much bass, either.

    Comments: I'm seriously considering getting a pair of Sony MDR-V6. The impression I get from what people are saying is that they're probably one of the best pairs you can get for the price, but some of the padding wears out and mileage varies on comfort from long sessions, though I haven't heard any horror stories with comfort either.

    So would this pair of Sony's be good, or should I get those Panasonics or something else. I'd really like something that's more in the tier of Beats, but not overpriced garbage. More like entry-level Bose, I guess.
    I've heard that the Sony's have really bright highs and are more analytical, which may not be good for bass songs.


    I've had the Panasonic headphones for the longest while and they're pretty good for electronic music.
    I switched back to them just last night for a few hours and they were pretty muddy compared to my Senns but they're really good for the price, good bass and soundstage.
    You should know that the Panasonic headphones have pleather earpads which get hot easily and usually crack after a while.

    Other recommendations would be the HA-RX700 (Don't even think about getting the 900.).

    Also, i think you should give Senns another chance. Their lower end models are notably uncomfortable but their higher end sets are very comfortable (HD 558, HD 598.)
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    Bose are also overpriced garbage.
    Bose make some of the best active noise cancelling headphones, and the other stuff really isn't that bad.
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    Bose are also overpriced garbage.
    Overpriced? Yes. Garbage? No.
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    My Headphone amp I got for free doesn't work (eh)

    My speakers have a headphone plug on the front, and the volume control adjusts the volume, will this do fine as an amp or am I going to get hideous quality or something (Logitech X-140 speakers)
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    Bose are also overpriced garbage.
    If you think Bose is garbage, pick up a pair of 901s, 301s, or 2.2s and tell me after you've listened to something on them with a good amp. Yes, they're overpriced, but most of what Bose makes is exceptional quality.
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    Really? I'd consider them completely different, M50s are much more dark/warm than the Grados.
    Yeah upon further listening to more songs that seems to be the case. Really nice headphones if you like open isolation

  28. Post #28
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    You should know that the Panasonic headphones have pleather earpads which get hot easily and usually crack after a while.
    Really wouldn't call them pleather, more like flexible plastic with a bit of foam behind it

    Absolutely awful pads on those things
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  29. Post #29
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    October 2010
    1,555 Posts
    Budget: 100-175
    Country: United States
    Isolation: Circumaural
    Purpose: Gaming
    Music Tastes: random and various techno genres, a bit of rock/punk/alternative

    Previous Experiences: Able planet isolation headphones i purchased for around 50 dollars, they have great quality, i currently own my 2nd pair, but they have a habit of being fragile, mainly around the adjustment "rails", which snap if too much pressure is put on them.

    Comments: I'm mainly looking for headphones that are durable for long term use at a computer, where they won't take much damage aside from maybe falling off a 3-4 foot desk, but still strong enough to withstand bending and whatnot so i don't have to treat it like fragile glass china.
    My budgets pretty versatile, i'd prefer something cheap but if its expensive with a great rep, i'll consider it.

    And thanks in advance for any suggestions and tips you guys give me.

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    October 2010
    765 Posts
    Budget: $10
    eBay: No
    Country: US
    Isolation: Circumaural
    Purpose: Music, Gaming, Voice chat
    Music Tastes: dubstep, something with some bass
    Previous Experiences: junk
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    Budget: $10
    eBay: No
    Country: US
    Isolation: Circumaural
    Purpose: Music, Gaming, Voice chat
    Music Tastes: dubstep, something with some bass
    Previous Experiences: junk
    You're not going to get shit with that budget.
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    Budget: $10
    eBay: No
    Country: US
    Isolation: Circumaural
    Purpose: Music, Gaming, Voice chat
    Music Tastes: dubstep, something with some bass
    Previous Experiences: junk
    not circumaural but you can get monoprice IEM which are excellent
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    If you think Bose is garbage, pick up a pair of 901s, 301s, or 2.2s and tell me after you've listened to something on them with a good amp. Yes, they're overpriced, but most of what Bose makes is exceptional quality.
    I read a review I trusted a lot, they took a surround system apart and did frequency graphs too, it was very expensive and used paper drivers, the frequencies were completely missing between 100 Hz to 500 Hz there was a sudden roll off in the treble. the systems they use in shops are hooked up to very expensive equipment to make them sound better.

  34. Post #34

    December 2012
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    Well while you're on the topic of Bose, anyone have any experience with the Bose IE2? Mostly looking for a pair of decent headphones while at the gym and walking/running around my campus, so something water resistant with an open design would be nice. I would just buy a cheap pair, but I also want to use these as a semi replacement for when my 598's are too much of a hassle to wear.

    I used the MEE m6 before but those broke on me two weeks ago. I mostly listen to trance and rock and wouldn't mind a little extra bass. Any other recommendations for >$100 would be great as well.

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    I'm stuck, I want to get a pair of ATH M50's and use them while out and about, then when i'm home plug them into my desk amp and use them on the PC, but when I wear other headphones my voice is muffled and it feels like I have clogged ears when talking on skype, so I end up shouting

    what do?

  36. Post #36
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    I'm stuck, I want to get a pair of ATH M50's and use them while out and about, then when i'm home plug them into my desk amp and use them on the PC, but when I wear other headphones my voice is muffled and it feels like I have clogged ears when talking on skype, so I end up shouting

    what do?
    http://m.download.cnet.com/Microphon...-10973610.html

  37. Post #37
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    November 2009
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    Fucking CNET making me download 700 other programs on top of the original

    I can't get along with this program, because of the inevitable latency

  38. Post #38
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    January 2011
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    looking for £100-£150 headphones.
    Over-ear, and by that I mean complete cover and comfort.

    Sound: Honestly, if I want bass I'll listen to subwoofers. Headphones imo should be crystal clear and not drowned in bass. Anyone with an idea of really accurate headphones I'll be grateful. They've got to have a nice full spacial sound, got to be able to handle all varieties.

    Not fussed on how it looks or how big, but if they're heavy and uncomfortable I'll be unlikely to get em.

  39. Post #39
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    looking for £100-£150 headphones.
    Over-ear, and by that I mean complete cover and comfort.

    Sound: Honestly, if I want bass I'll listen to subwoofers. Headphones imo should be crystal clear and not drowned in bass. Anyone with an idea of really accurate headphones I'll be grateful. They've got to have a nice full spacial sound, got to be able to handle all varieties.

    Not fussed on how it looks or how big, but if they're heavy and uncomfortable I'll be unlikely to get em.
    HD598 is probably a good bet for you then, maybe slightly above your budget at around £160.
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    Already have sennheisers that costed £60, so..maybe a different company would be a bigger change for me. Not to say they're bad, but I've used my sennheisers for 3 yrs without fail.
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