1. Post #6681
    Flubascrub
    Flubadoo's Avatar
    August 2009
    10,532 Posts
    i think a purchasable blink would be a good idea

    and the positioning-dependent AD carries with no innate flash would need tweaks to compensate (not sure how)

    Edited:

    or just make all of the other summoner spells come up to flash's level somehow
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  2. Post #6682
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    June 2009
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    Why did they remove Yordle Stompers again? Seemed like a really good idea in my book.

    ghost is still better on a lot of champions, like olaf, vlad, mundo and renekton
    Singed, Kass
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  3. Post #6683
    Exploits's Avatar
    January 2010
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    Especially when Flash has been nerfed an absurd amount times. They've decreased the length it goes, they'd doubled the cooldown, they've removed it being able to destroy projectiles.
    This was more a bug or something, but was, overall, unintended in the design. It did this. They left it. Then it was used an absurd amount for this end. Flash was only created to be an instant reposition spell. It ended up being far too easy to throw yourself over walls to escape, and that you could also dodge a spell such as Ryze's Q meant you were both unkillable and a total menace with Flash up. The [comparatively] low cooldown of Flash also meant it was used in situations that didn't necessarily require it left it completely abused.
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  4. Post #6684
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    June 2009
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    Old Flash could destroy something like Brand's ult. Oh the rage..
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  5. Post #6685
    wtf am i reading
    Blueplastic's Avatar
    June 2010
    15,935 Posts
    Flash is a horrible design, but you can't remove it now. It would fuck up the game.

    Edited:

    Old Flash could destroy something like Brand's ult. Oh the rage..
    Brand wasn't released when you could do that
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  6. Post #6686
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    June 2009
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    i said "something like"

    meaning something of vast importance to the champion and his ability to massively deal damage in a teamfight, could simply be destroyed by flash
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  7. Post #6687
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    October 2010
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    i said "something like"

    meaning something of vast importance to the champion and his ability to massively deal damage in a teamfight, could simply be destroyed by flash
    Likewise, a character has the ability to deal massive damage, but needs Flash in order to coordinate it. (Galio, Nunu, Morgana)
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  8. Post #6688
    Exploits's Avatar
    January 2010
    2,368 Posts
    Likewise, a character has the ability to deal massive damage, but needs Flash in order to coordinate it. (Galio, Nunu, Morgana)
    Galio doesn't need Flash, the entire purpose of his Q and E is for initiation. Speed boost from E puts him in position, Q slows the carry (Or carries) to trap in his ult. The only reason people do take Flash on Galio is because said carries will have Flash as well.
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  9. Post #6689
    DYRUS BONER
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    June 2010
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    Flash is a core summoner spell for both of those champions. How OP does that make them now?
    its not 'core' on ezreal
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  10. Post #6690
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    October 2010
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    Galio doesn't need Flash, the entire purpose of his Q and E is for initiation. Speed boost from E puts him in position, Q slows the carry (Or carries) to trap in his ult. The only reason people do take Flash on Galio is because said carries will have Flash as well.
    But since everyone runs Flash/has a gap closer, they'll run when you QE. Flash ulting brings a surprise factor to avoid any on hit CC and allows you to be useful after ulting by slowing the remainers and speeding up your carries.
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  11. Post #6691
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    August 2006
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    Lubu Jarvan...

    Besides the stupid fucking Teemo skin the new stuff seems pretty awesome.
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  12. Post #6692
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    June 2009
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    its not 'core' on ezreal
    It's too high on the recommendation list for someone who basically already has a flash. The only reason why Kass doesn't need it is because his blink has a ridiculously low cooldown for what it does.
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  13. Post #6693
    funion is gay
    Zukriuchen's Avatar
    September 2009
    16,831 Posts
    you just proved why flash is bad design
    now tell me, when did I say I wasnt trying to

    Edited:

    Flash is a horrible design, but you can't remove it now. It would fuck up the game.
    hit the nail in the head
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  14. Post #6694
    Repulsion's Avatar
    May 2010
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    Omigod I fucking love Vayne. She starts slow but after a while shit really starts happening. A Tumble+Condemn combination to pin someone to a wall is so damn... satisfying hnnnng.
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  15. Post #6695
    Exploits's Avatar
    January 2010
    2,368 Posts
    But since everyone runs Flash/has a gap closer, they'll run when you QE. Flash ulting brings a surprise factor to avoid any on hit CC and allows you to be useful after ulting by slowing the remainers and speeding up your carries.
    . . . Yeah but the argument we're having from the beginning here is that taking Flash out would fuck everything up. If the enemy doesn't have Flash, Galio wouldn't need it either thanks to his skillset, so as far as it can be concerned in Galio's case, it's a big "Who cares?". Actually it would almost be a buff for him.
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  16. Post #6696
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    June 2009
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    There's also the fact that Nunu's ult wouldn't be simply dodged via flash. So although he might not be able to flash in in order to use his ult, he won't have to worry about everyone being able to just blink out of it when he does manage to get it off.
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  17. Post #6697
    funion is gay
    Zukriuchen's Avatar
    September 2009
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    you're taking a bunch of examples and using them as a reason to remove the most used summoner spell in a game with millions of players

    the same game that becomes incredibly unbalanced if a champion has his damage slightly reduced or increased
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  18. Post #6698
    Murr purr and stuff!
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    November 2007
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    nunu used to be able to flash during his ult channel ages ago
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  19. Post #6699
    asdfghjkl.
    Erasus's Avatar
    May 2011
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    On the Flash discussion, I don't think my opponents have ever used it.

    Edited:

    Or they have and I just thought they've used something else. idk?
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  20. Post #6700
    V
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    February 2009
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    Is Akali's anyone else's champion? I've been playing for over two months and I've never once seen her. I bought her out of researching and watching a couple of videos.
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  21. Post #6701
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    June 2009
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    On the Flash discussion, I don't think my opponents have ever used it.

    Edited:

    Or they have and I just thought they've used something else. idk?
    are you level 12 or lower? lol
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  22. Post #6702
    Exploits's Avatar
    January 2010
    2,368 Posts
    Is Akali's anyone else's champion? I've been playing for over two months and I've never once seen her. I bought her out of researching and watching a couple of videos.
    She's still very strong, but she fell into the "omfg a nerf shes unviable forever!!1111!!1one" camp a little while ago and fell out of favour out of sheer rage and misinformation.
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  23. Post #6703
    asdfghjkl.
    Erasus's Avatar
    May 2011
    2,145 Posts
    no, i use it, i'm just saying i don't think i've ever seen anyone use it.
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  24. Post #6704
    Murr purr and stuff!
    Nintendo-Guy's Avatar
    November 2007
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    akali is one of the few champs that hasn't been touched ever since she was released

    for some reason

    Edited:

    nvm they actually did change her some
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  25. Post #6705
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    June 2009
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    they changed her during the varus update i think
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  26. Post #6706
    Murr purr and stuff!
    Nintendo-Guy's Avatar
    November 2007
    36,405 Posts
    trundle hasn't been buffed/nerded since release tho
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  27. Post #6707
    help me



    "XXXX lane or afk"
    "report feeder for feeding & troll pick xd"
    "stfu i play what i want"
    "its k we dont need jungler"

    Edited:

    srsly, help me im dying
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  28. Post #6708
    Exploits's Avatar
    January 2010
    2,368 Posts
    Just keep trying, man. Practice in normal games if you notice you fucked something up until you get it right.
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  29. Post #6709
    Just keep trying, man. Practice in normal games if you notice you fucked something up until you get it right.
    No, I win most normal games. For some reason I never get a team without someone starting a flame war in the chat after 5 minutes ingame.
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  30. Post #6710
    Murr purr and stuff!
    Nintendo-Guy's Avatar
    November 2007
    36,405 Posts
    might have something to do with you being under 1000 elo

    can't really expect people to be good then
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  31. Post #6711
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    November 2008
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    THE WORLD IS WATCHING

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  32. Post #6712
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    April 2010
    2,186 Posts
    No, I win most normal games. For some reason I never get a team without someone starting a flame war in the chat after 5 minutes ingame.
    Try carrying hard
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  33. Post #6713
    I played with an Alistar that couldn't solo blue buff at Lv. 4.

    (He died to blue buff)
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  34. Post #6714
    Exploits's Avatar
    January 2010
    2,368 Posts
    might have something to do with you being under 1000 elo

    can't really expect people to be good then
    It's pretty much just this. Go into games trying to be the voice of reason. Read random ELO Hell guides.
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  35. Post #6715
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    October 2008
    1,803 Posts
    karma has only been buffed since release even if they weren't really AMAZIGN

    she doesn't need buffs, people just don't understand the way you have to play her
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  36. Post #6716
    It's pretty much just this. Go into games trying to be the voice of reason. Read random ELO Hell guides.
    Reponses I've gotten so far:
    stfu
    just play noob
    reporting ***
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  37. Post #6717
    Exploits's Avatar
    January 2010
    2,368 Posts
    Reponses I've gotten so far:
    stfu
    just play noob
    reporting ***
    Shitheads will be shitheads. They'll listen to you more if you do well. The better your score the more respect you get, really.

    Oh, and play/learn mid/jungle. Definitely the two more or most important roles, all depending who you ask. Mid can gank top and bottom lanes when possible, jungler keeps the pace of the game in your team's favour as much as possible. Top lane just sits in top all day and doesn't do anything for the team until late-game, and it's the laning phase that's most treacherous usually in lower ELO.
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  38. Post #6718
    I know, I main jungle in normal games when I play with friends, but because of my low ELO I'm last pick 90% of the games, which obviously forces me to play support everytime since noone else wants to play that role.

    It's just a downwards spiral for me at this point.
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  39. Post #6719
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    April 2010
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    I know, I main jungle in normal games when I play with friends, but because of my low ELO I'm last pick 90% of the games, which obviously forces me to play support everytime since noone else wants to play that role.

    It's just a downwards spiral for me at this point.
    I'm pretty sure that playing support in your elo range makes little to no sense.
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  40. Post #6720
    Exploits's Avatar
    January 2010
    2,368 Posts
    You can kind of carry with an overuse of wards, pings, and so-on. Coordinate for objectives by keeping vision, use CV and when available, cast it so you can safely roll into the enemy jungle and stick them near buffs for the chance to steal them when an advantage opens up. Alistar is a strong pick since he can initiate a team fight and also anti-initiate a bad one.
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