1. Post #921
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    May 2010
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    50's era basketball shoes look goofy no-matter what.

    [ no texture yet ]
    @whoever modeled this

    Those legs and feet look very unnatural, you need to practice some anatomy and organic shapes in general.
    Other than that they just look generally poorly made, the sock is unevenly thick, the shoes are oddly thin and the strings are far to thin and tiny for tf2, use scouts MNC shoes for reference.

    The calves could just as well be copied from the standard model or the ali baba booties, both for consistency and saving you the trouble of getting it to look more natural

    and why 50's when tf2 is set in the late 60's?
    High tops also reads better as classic basketball shoes

    (If Ronin: This is possibly worse than the horribly awful cowboy boots.
    Get your shit together for gods sake we all know you are able to make fantastic stuff)
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  2. Post #922
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    Those legs and feet look insanely unnatural, practice some anatomy and organic shapes in general.
    Other than that they just look generally poorly made, the sock is unevenly thick, the shoes are oddly thin and the strings are far to thin and tiny.

    This is possibly worse than the horribly awful cowboy boots.



    and why 50's when tf2 is set in the late 60's?
    I think Jalcober made the model, so I agree on a little practice on organic shapes. But I agree with you on ronin should do the same.
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  3. Post #923
    BADGERPIG
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    -snip-
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  4. Post #924
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    January 2011
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    Not sure if i'll finish it, i'll be horrible to rig...
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  5. Post #925
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    November 2011
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    To whoever modeled the demo headband (it's confusing because you all let psyke post images of your stuff instead of yourself. Why do you do that? He gets all the supposed credit for your work. Why not just post yourself so we know who actually made the thing, instead of who gave it some base colours? Everyone's going to assume Ronin made it.)

    Have you submitted it to the workshop? Or are you trying to figure out the facial flexes? Because, honestly, I don't think you have to worry about that. Like the all-father, I think that's something they may fix themselves if they like the item enough. And its a really nice hat idea! Honestly, me and sexyrobot make that scout headband and think we had a good item, then you made one for demo, and I'm all like 'mother fucker!'.

    I also think the shoes should be high tops, and that the leg part should be a sock. Everything about demo is long and thick (pardon the pun) and those boots look a little tiny at the moment. There's also something weird about seeing demos are legs.
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  6. Post #926
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    Way too unnoticeable, in my opinion.
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  7. Post #927
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    November 2010
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    maybe you'd like styles

    like office phones and home phones

    I like the concept but something seems to be off. the holes bother me a bit.
    could you try painting them like the example?

    Maybe bevel some extra geometry below.
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  8. Post #928
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    no, see that adds a color splotch on a rather empty and uncovered area, the matches blend in with the suit and are placed in an area which is mostly covered under pyros arm
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  9. Post #929
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    August 2011
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    See not he problem is here is that the couvre always sticks against medic's default labcout out unless painted waterlogged labcoat, the matches on the other hand blend in even if they where neon fucking pink due to their bland color on an already dark character. It needs some strong variation for it to be a worthwhile item. I hate to say it but without the magnify on the matches picture I never would have even noticed them, granted Couvre's backpack has a magnifying glass but that's because the picture they chose to start with was an incredibly small shot of the medic torso.

       Besides, couvre was made in like, 40 minutes so it's not fair to be put up for comparison   
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  10. Post #930
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    Not sure if i'll finish it, i'll be horrible to rig...
    I'm suprised you're still wanting to go on with that idea.
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  11. Post #931
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    November 2011
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    Decided the Col Roule was in need of a well made update, normal courtesy of sparkwire and texture and styles from me.
    Damn. I just got rid of mine.

    Has anyone made a 'TF industries Engie robot buddy' set for the Pyro? I have some ideas for one, but it seems like the sort of thing that might have been done before.
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  12. Post #932
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    Decided the Col Roule was in need of a well made update, normal courtesy of sparkwire and texture and styles from me.
    As a owner of a Col Roule, I fully support this.
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  13. Post #933
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    January 2010
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    A CHALLENGE GOOD SIR

    me and hecates have been in talks about something like this for about a week or so. but i got college, and cant just model anything on the drop of a... well excuse the pun... HAT So ima continue with his original concept without this in mind, sorry mate.

    since i got a couple hours to work on it, ima do that now http://www.livestream.com/insaneicide
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  14. Post #934
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    May 2009
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    The 'Daily Dose' or the 'Needless Needles'?
    agree for Dose, disagree for Needles.

    and opinions and such, you know the drill.
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  15. Post #935
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    January 2012
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    They might look a little better at a more acute angle, or perhaps even pointing straight down.

    Also: "The Backup Booster"?
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  16. Post #936
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    They might look a little better at a more acute angle, or perhaps even pointing straight down.

    Also: "The Backup Booster"?
    Originally they did point down, but it made them unnoticable.
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  17. Post #937
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    May 2011
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    The 'Daily Dose' or the 'Needless Needles'?
    agree for Dose, disagree for Needles.

    and opinions and such, you know the drill.
    The corks look very odd. Most of them are at odd, impractical angles, and the texture doesn't look very good.
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  18. Post #938
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    The corks look very odd. Most of them are at odd, impractical angles, and the texture doesn't look very good.
    Agree/disagree here, i agree that they are in a bad angle, but the texture is good.
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  19. Post #939
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    May 2010
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    Decided the Col Roule was in need of a well made update, normal courtesy of sparkwire and texture and styles from me.
    the new normal seems to be much better

    though i can't quite tell how much better due to the angle of the light

    ao looks better around the edges too, and the base isn't pink, which is also good
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  20. Post #940
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    November 2011
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    A CHALLENGE GOOD SIR

    me and hecates have been in talks about something like this for about a week or so. but i got college, and cant just model anything on the drop of a... well excuse the pun... HAT So ima continue with his original concept without this in mind, sorry mate.

    since i got a couple hours to work on it, ima do that now http://www.livestream.com/insaneicide
    i don't really care, a this wasn't my idea i did it for a friend and b it was an 8 min job so any criticism i get i don't honestly care about, was just seeing if anyone was liking the way it was heading, it turns out no, so project shut.
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  21. Post #941
    BADGERPIG
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    May 2010
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    The 'Daily Dose' or the 'Needless Needles'?
    agree for Dose, disagree for Needles.

    and opinions and such, you know the drill.
    the item itself looks simply fantastic!
    but i'm a bit worried they will be clipping and get somewhat covered by his arms,
    what about the other design you had with the needles on a belt between the suspenders?
    or maybe in some other attachment to his belt?
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  22. Post #942
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    the item itself looks simply fantastic!
    but i'm a bit worried they will be clipping and get somewhat covered by his arms,
    what about the other design you had with the needles on a belt between the suspenders?
    that exists, but that's for another time.

    Also everyone's choice of name I approve of greatly, that means I can get away with having made a faggoty new paint style
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  23. Post #943
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    goddamnit pie tony <3 <3 <3
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  24. Post #944
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    January 2011
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    goddamnit pie tony <3 <3 <3
    i get no love
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  25. Post #945
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    Dennab
    December 2009
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    i get no love
    Don't worry hun, I've got plenty to spare.
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  26. Post #946
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    September 2011
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    i get no love
    fuck, your avatar looked at me and I nearly shat myself.
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  27. Post #947
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    January 2011
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    fuck, your avatar looked at me and I nearly shat myself.
    but it's a jpg
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  28. Post #948
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    November 2010
    387 Posts
    Change of heart! I won't let depression keep me down! The show must go on, and I promised you guys I'd finish my pack. So I continue!


    It'd be awesome to have the puzzle pieces scatter as gibs on death, but I realise that'd be unnecessarily difficult.
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  29. Post #949
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    One last image just to show how paintable works, top mid/left are default.
    I'm unsure if to have it more green, or more [paintable colour], we'll also have a solid 4 colour style too.

    Assuming everything is going to plan, working on fixing the corks & optimisations now, shall be on workshop soon!
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  30. Post #950
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    December 2010
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    One last image just to show how paintable works, top mid/left are default.
    I'm unsure if to have it more green, or more [paintable colour], we'll also have a solid 4 colour style too.

    Assuming everything is going to plan, working on fixing the corks & optimisations now, shall be on workshop soon!
    Wait, how does it work. Does it invert the color of the top ones for the bottom ones?
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  31. Post #951
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    so the top color is the raw paint color, and the bottom tints the paint color slightly green?
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  32. Post #952
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    May 2010
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    Look at me go, I'm on fire! Do you dare weigh your sins on the Millenium Scale?

    That golden color seems a little weird, it looks a bit greenish on some parts. Try to make it more dark, similar to the Saxxy's one.
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  33. Post #953
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    so the top color is the raw paint color, and the bottom tints the paint color slightly green?
    Bingo was indeed his name.

    o.
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  34. Post #954
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    what does that do to black?

    I don't think the tint would come through on black.
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  35. Post #955
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    July 2011
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    I was looking through the TF2 F2P GDC 2012 slides and saw this.



    So yeah that's what the Valve employees see on Workshop submissions. And I guess if we saw the slides earlier we would've guessed the Cozy Camper was getting in.
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  36. Post #956
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    what does that do to black?

    I don't think the tint would come through on black.

    seems that it does.
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  37. Post #957
    Dreams of chronic and sustained critglows.
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    I was looking through the TF2 F2P GDC 2012 slides and saw this.



    So yeah that's what the Valve employees see on Workshop submissions. And I guess if we saw the slides earlier we would've guessed the Cozy Camper was getting in.
    so "revenue is FINAL and that's FINAL" isn't really all that true, since they have a special button right there to reset it...
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  38. Post #958
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    I was looking through the TF2 F2P GDC 2012 slides and saw this.



    So yeah that's what the Valve employees see on Workshop submissions. And I guess if we saw the slides earlier we would've guessed the Cozy Camper was getting in.
    Times reported: 6?
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  39. Post #959
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    Maybe instead of corks try plastic tips like you see on one time needles?
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  40. Post #960
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    May 2011
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    I did not work on the demo basketball set.

    To whoever modeled the demo headband (it's confusing because you all let psyke post images of your stuff instead of yourself. Why do you do that? He gets all the supposed credit for your work. Why not just post yourself so we know who actually made the thing, instead of who gave it some base colours? Everyone's going to assume Ronin made it.)

    Have you submitted it to the workshop? Or are you trying to figure out the facial flexes? Because, honestly, I don't think you have to worry about that. Like the all-father, I think that's something they may fix themselves if they like the item enough. And its a really nice hat idea! Honestly, me and sexyrobot make that scout headband and think we had a good item, then you made one for demo, and I'm all like 'mother fucker!'.

    I also think the shoes should be high tops, and that the leg part should be a sock. Everything about demo is long and thick (pardon the pun) and those boots look a little tiny at the moment. There's also something weird about seeing demos are legs.
    I let psyke post screen shots because i dont usually have the time. Also, when he posts on his end its generally because he is working on the vmt tweaks and some detailing and testing my rigs. I usually work on texturing or other items while he posts his workflow. I don't mind him getting "some" credit since many you know already that i make the models.

    It really doesn't matter as much as who made the model or texture, what matters is if the item is good or not. I guys feel its not a good item, give them a pat for trying then lead them to a possible direction. If they like it, then you get a little stamp on the item thats being submitted. If they don't like it, everybody else will know that you helped anyway.


    On the demo legs, i feel its adequate enough. Athletes have long, thin shins. I do agree with the shape of the socks and it needs to be a more fabric-y shape than sharp. And yes as a basketball buff, i prefer high cut chuck taylors please.

    Edited:

    (If Ronin: This is possibly worse than the horribly awful cowboy boots.
    Get your shit together for gods sake we all know you are able to make fantastic stuff)
    :P
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