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    Jurikuer's Avatar
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    I'm in dire need of a new computer. My laptop is great for day to day stuff but I need a gaming rig. All I really need to know is, what are the better brands I should look at, and what kind of things should I know. For example, Intel or AMD motherboard. What kind of hard drives are fast, and affordable. There are a dozen types of Ram, do I want DDR3, SDRam, ? Stuff like that. Any help?

    Thank you to everyone for the help. With slight modifications to the list here is the final build:
    Grand Total (Including Taxes and Shipping): $990.37CA

    Rosewill Blackbone Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16811147023

    Item #: N82E16811147023
    $39.99


    Antec EarthWatts EA-650 GREEN 650W ATX12V v2.3 SLI Ready CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16817371044

    Item #: N82E16817371044
    $90.99

    Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16882021128
    Item #: N82E16835100007
    $9.99


    Rosewill - Pellucid HD Series High Speed HDMI® cable (6 FEET)
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16882021128
    Item #: N82E16882021128
    $8.99


    Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit - OEM
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16832116992
    Item #: N82E16832116992
    $139.99



    HP 24X Multiformat DVD Writer 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model 1260i
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16827140042

    Item #: N82E16827140042
    $26.99


    Samsung by Seagate Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ/ST500DM005 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16822152181
    Item #: N82E16822152181
    $74.99


    SAPPHIRE 100314-3L Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card

    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16814102948
    Item #: N82E16814102948
    $159.99


    G.SKILL Value Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-8GBNT

    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16820231424
    Item #: N82E16820231424
    Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy
    $37.99


    ASRock H61M-GS LGA 1155 Intel H61 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard

    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16813157286
    Item #: N82E16813157286
    $69.99


    Intel Core i5-2300 Sandy Bridge 2.8GHz (3.1GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2000 ...

    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16819115076
    Item #: N82E16819115076
    $189.99


    Rosewill Model RCA-12-AC-US 12 ft. Universal AC Power Cord / 3 Prongs / Black Male to Female
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16812119266
    Item #: N82E16812119266
    $6.99

    BYTECC Model SATA-118C 18" Serial ATA-150/300 Cable w/Locking Latch
    Item #: N82E16812270093
    $3.49
    I have ordered the case and the operating system to start. Then on the 29th I'll be ordering the rest.

    Case an Operating System arrived after only 2 days. Excellent travel time indeed.

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    You need to give us a budget.

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    Jurikuer's Avatar
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    Well I suppose 500-600 dollars would be a good budget. I don't need a monitor and I have speakers/keyboard and mouse. I basically just need a tower and computer to go in it.

    Edited:

    I'm looking at newegg now and I'm seeing it's hard to find anything that doesn't break my budget though. And seeing all of these GTX56-AFb006hgy drivers and stuff. My mind is boggled.

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    Whereabouts can you buy from and what do you want to do with the computer mainly?

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    Jurikuer's Avatar
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    I can order online, I'll most likely need to anyways. And I need a gaming rig. I have games I can't run and I'd like to run them. Games from Starcraft 2 to X3-Reunion to UT3, etc. I don't need a super powerful one, but I would like to play these games.

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    Allstone's Avatar
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    Online in America or what? It's no good for us to make you a build on Newegg if you live in France, say.
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    Canada, so yea pretty much America.
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    So you need an entire build plus the OS but you do have the Monitor and peripherals. I'll see what I can throw together.

    Edited:

    Do you need the OS? It would give a lot of room if you already had the OS.

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    Jurikuer's Avatar
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    The OS is not needed. I can get that at another time. Honestly I'm just looking at the essentials (except the OS).

    Edited:

    I apologize for the delay, but I had to leave for work.

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    I'm on my phone right now, sp I can't really make a build, but ill say that an extra 100$ would help a lot.

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    Jurikuer's Avatar
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    Well you can do what you can and when it's done I'll just review it. I'll likely be buying it in two packs anyways. One pack one week, the other pack another week kind of deal.

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    Jurikuer's Avatar
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    Would I be better off looking at other peoples builds for around the same price range? I see there are several though most don't link where they got the parts, but that should be simple to find.

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    Jurikuer's Avatar
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    With everything you've recommended me it comes to $712.76. And that's not bad at all. I thank you for your time and expertise. Now I can't wait to get my income tax in.

    It was just under 600, but then taxes and shipping came in lol.

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    You might be able to find a cheap open box Z68 and then get the i5 2500K (if you get the cheaper corsair PSU). You'd be able to overclock, and Z68 supports multiple parts. Much better upgrade path. The reason I didn't post one, is that you have to be pretty fast to grab a deal, and it wouldn't make sense posting one before you have the money and are actually buying. When do you ge this income tax?

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    I'm expecting it in the next few days. Probably sometime next week.

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    Wouldn't it have made more sense to price it out on Newegg.ca? Some things are more expensive here.

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    The 'Canada' slipped me. Damn. I'll look it up tomorrow, timezones, y'know.

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    Jurikuer's Avatar
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    I've already done it all on the canada site. Some prices were different but that's okay. I've also decided to upgrade the ram to 8gb instead of 4. And I think I changed the processor to an i5. When I get this thing i, and put together i"ll be sure to let you guys know how she runs.

    [edit]

    Yup I changed to
    Intel Core i5-2300 Sandy Bridge 2.8GHz (3.1GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2000 BX80623I52300:
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16819115076
    CORSAIR XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Desktop Memory Model CMX8GX3M2A1333C9:
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16820145315

    Final Build:

    Rosewill Blackbone Black Computer Case
    Was 49.99
    Is 39.99

    Antec EarthWatts EA-650 GREEN 650W Power Supply
    Was 95.99
    Is 90.99

    SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 6870 100314-3L Video Card
    Was 179.99
    Is 159.99

    Intel Core i5-2300 2.8GHz LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor
    189.99

    Samsung by Seagate Spinpoint F3 500GB 3.5" SATA 3.0Gb/s Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
    Was 89.99
    Is 74.99

    ASRock H61M-GS Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
    69.99

    CORSAIR XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Desktop Memory
    48.49

    ASUS 24X DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA Model DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS
    20.99
    Grand Total: $695.42
    After taxes/shipping/etc: $822.92

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    Doesn't look too bad. I'll just take a look on the PSU after breakfast, but it seems like a fair build.

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    Corsair RAM is overpriced. Get these.
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16820231424

    Also if you're buying today or tomorrow make sure you throw on the AntecPSU15 code at checkout. Brings that PSU down from $90 to $76.
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    Jurikuer's Avatar
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    Corsair RAM is overpriced. Get these.
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16820231424

    Also if you're buying today or tomorrow make sure you throw on the AntecPSU15 code at checkout. Brings that PSU down from $90 to $76.
    For the extra 10 dollars, CORSAIR has a heat spreader and is a reliable brand.

    Unfortunately I won't be ordering the PSU or the others parts until the 29th.

    However, still, thank you for the information and suggestion but I think I will stick with CORSAIR.
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    umm, GSKILL is also a reliable brand
    if you honestly can't live without heatspreaders, get these
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    umm, GSKILL is also a reliable brand
    if you honestly can't live without heatspreaders, get these
    I don't NEED heat spreaders. But I figured there's no harm in having them.
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    Just get the G.SKILL, you won't notice a difference. XMS3 is just an old habit, and because it's what's cheapest in Denmark anyway.
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    I don't NEED heat spreaders. But I figured there's no harm in having them.
    There is if you ever want a cooler with a big heatsink...

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    There is if you ever want a cooler with a big heatsink...
    It's not like he van overclock on that motherboard (or CPU), so don't try to make it a problem. Still, the other stuff is cheaper.

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    You both have a point. I don't think I'll ever get a custom cooler installed, however I doubt my computer will run so hot my ram will need heat distribution anyways. So I've taken your advice and changed my RAM to the cheaper version. It's just a shame my Mobo can only support 2x240 pin ram sticks. That's why I upgraded from 4GB to 8GB. I didn't like the idea of ever replacing my RAM rather than adding to it. And it was only an extra few bucks.

    Edited:

    And I find it amusing how I went from a $500-$600 budget to a $900 build. I guess I was more flexible than I thought haha.

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    Hey, has anyone ever had an issue with newegg's products not including the cables you require to hook up your PC? Because my power supply didn't include a power cord and it doesn't look like my DVD drive will include cables either.

    Edited:

    Also what's good thermal paste?

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    Hey, has anyone ever had an issue with newegg's products not including the cables you require to hook up your PC? Because my power supply didn't include a power cord and it doesn't look like my DVD drive will include cables either.

    Edited:

    Also what's good thermal paste?
    I think the EarthWatts power supplies didn't come with power cords because they want you to reuse your old one. Hint, EARTHWatts. The DVD drives don't come with the cables either since it's an OEM.
    Edited:
    You'd just need a SATA cable. Any kind would work as far as I know. Make sure to measure the distance from the drive to the motherboard so that you'd get the right length.
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    I think the EarthWatts power supplies didn't come with power cords because they want you to reuse your old one. Hint, EARTHWatts. The DVD drives don't come with the cables either.
    Yea I ordered a power cable to go with it. But what kind of cables do I need for my DVD drive? And will that be everything i need?

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    DVD drives just use standard sata cables, the same thing that hard drives use to connect to the motherboard. Motherboards usually come with anywhere from 2 to 4 sata cables, so you don't need to worry about buying them separate.

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    Just got in all of the parts except the DVD drive. Don't know what's going on with it but the tracker hasn't updated at all.


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    Jurikuer's Avatar
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    I'm having some trouble building this thing. When I boot it up for a test boot nothing happens. Power is going to everything but I'm not getting anything on my TV and there isn't any boot beep from the tiny speaker.

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    I'm having some trouble building this thing. When I boot it up for a test boot nothing happens. Power is going to everything but I'm not getting anything on my TV and there isn't any boot beep from the tiny speaker.
    Check all connections and so on. Did you connect the PCI-E power to the GPU? Did you connect the DVI, VGA or whatever to the right connector? Sometimes people connect it to the motherboard instead the GPU. It probably wouldn't even seem to boot, but did you connect the 4-pin CPU power? Also check that you didn't fuck up the CPU either.

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    Jurikuer's Avatar
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    i checked. i fucked up the motherboard. theres a bent pin...i dont even know how the hell that happened but i am pissed right now.

    Edited:

    Voided the warrenty, can't get a replacement. This is bullshit. Any recommendations for a replacement? The one I ordered is out of stock apparently.

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    Edited:

    Should this suffice for a replacement?
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16813157256

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    You could try unbending it with tweezers.

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    Voided the warrenty, can't get a replacement. This is bullshit. Any recommendations for a replacement? The one I ordered is out of stock apparently.
    No it isn't bullshit. I've never seen a product where user error is covered by the warranty. It's unfortunate, but it's pretty fair. I always install the CPU first and make sure the two slits in the sides line up so the pins are uncovered for the shortest period of time.

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    You could try unbending it with tweezers.
    My eyes can't focus well enough on such a small object.

    No it isn't bullshit. I've never seen a product where user error is covered by the warranty. It's unfortunate, but it's pretty fair. I always install the CPU first and make sure the two slits in the sides line up so the pins are uncovered for the shortest period of time.
    Yea but I feel that for such a fragile product where they don't even offer to put it in for you that the risk of something going wrong is far too high. And I'm not going to try and screw the system by lying to them. So I'm looking into a computer shop to see if they can fix it for me.

    When I installed the CPU it went in just fine, it was snug and everything nothing was moving. The only issue I had was when I was putting the lever down to lock it in it felt really tight. I don't know how tight that is supposed to feel but it made me nervous, almost sounded like the board was stretching to compensate.

    So I just said screw it, I'm locking it in, I don't see anything else to adjust or move so this must be how it's done and I did it. I don't know if that's how one of the pins bent, but god damn is it annoying when everything goes right except that ONE small thing.

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    Sandy Bridge chips are known to make a crunching sort of sound on some boards. It's not an issue. I've done two 2500K builds for people, a 2700K build for my uncle and an i3-2120 build for a friend. I remember all of them feeling like they had more resistance when locking down the level than my old C2D build. You either bent the pin during handling or you put the CPU in the wrong way at some point. The risk of something going wrong really isn't that high if you just quickly take the plastic cover off the socket and put the cpu on immediately. I've never bent a pin in a build I've done.

    I've heard that some jewellers will do work on CPU sockets and will fix a bent pin. Not sure if any in your area would be willing to do it though.
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