1. Post #3081
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    BeardyDuck's Avatar
    September 2009
    15,539 Posts
    are you stupid?
    the only reason why those heroes are considered "op" is because idiots don't know how to counter them properly.
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  2. Post #3082
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    Kendra's Avatar
    November 2008
    7,209 Posts
    so much Na'vi troll
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  3. Post #3083
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    BeardyDuck's Avatar
    September 2009
    15,539 Posts
    people play stupidly and let them free farm and then complains they're op later when they have 200 cs at 20 minutes.

    Edited:

    poor play by quantic right now.
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  4. Post #3084
    I bought this title for 1 dollar
    titopei's Avatar
    April 2009
    8,519 Posts
    Oh look, it's beardy on his high horse again. Fyi, i played dota on two separate occasions (in 2006 and 2008) before moving over to LoL. Also, you guys need to get off your high horse and stop pretending dota's balance is perfect, it's good for the most part but perfect and immune to criticism? Nope. Do you really think anti mage, invoker, lycan, syllabear are balanced?

    As for bloodseeker, he might not be op per se but bloodrage + rupture combo is pretty broken if you don't have tp. You just gotta stand there for 9 seconds while he tears you a new one.
    Pretty sure thats the whole point. Since he's a ganker, that is his stun.
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  5. Post #3085
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    Jonii's Avatar
    January 2010
    868 Posts
    Bloodseeker doesnt have that great a teamfight capability if the other team stuns and either focuses him or kills some others before focusing him down. If you can deny him well and not let him freefarm or gank you in the early game, he's not going to be a problem mid to late game. Once he's shut down , gank him once or twice and he's pretty much out of the game. Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm just speaking from my experience in these past months I've been learning. (BS was the first hero I learned to play.)
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  6. Post #3086
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    Kendra's Avatar
    November 2008
    7,209 Posts
    I loathe this metagame
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  7. Post #3087
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    aydin690's Avatar
    April 2007
    9,998 Posts
    I'm at work right now, but they'll be on twitch.tv later... Should I watch there or will there be a better cast on YouTube? Can't wait to see this, sounds like an amazing match.
    Purge is going to upload it to his channel.
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  8. Post #3088
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    BeardyDuck's Avatar
    September 2009
    15,539 Posts
    here is barny (an above-average player, maybe even better than me) and his response to you aydin.


    2:08 PM - [BAMF]Barny: "Do you really think anti mage, invoker, lycan, syllabear are balanced?"
    2:08 PM - [BAMF]Barny: "As for bloodseeker, he might not be op per se but bloodrage + rupture combo is pretty broken if you don't have tp"
    2:08 PM - [BAMF]Barny: Oh god
    2:08 PM - [BAMF]Barny: my fucking eyes
    2:08 PM - [BAMF]Barny: Sylabear... Lycan?
    2:08 PM - [BAMF]Barny: Bloodseeker?
    2:09 PM - [BAMF]Barny: Seems like he doesnt like heroes that pubbie retards play to shit on noobs...
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  9. Post #3089
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    April 2007
    9,998 Posts
    Bloodseeker doesnt have that great a teamfight capability if the other team stuns and either focuses him or kills some others before focusing him down. If you can deny him well and not let him freefarm or gank you in the early game, he's not going to be a problem mid to late game. Once he's shut down , gank him once or twice and he's pretty much out of the game. Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm just speaking from my experience in these past months I've been learning. (BS was the first hero I learned to play.)
    But that's the problem, he's got one of the best if not the best lane sustain in the game.
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  10. Post #3090
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    BeardyDuck's Avatar
    September 2009
    15,539 Posts
    But that's the problem, he's got one of the best if not the best lane sustain in the game.
    no he doesn't.

    Edited:

    2:12 PM - [BAMF]Barny: Bloodseeker is fucking annoying, but you push him out of lane with burst damage
    2:12 PM - [BAMF]Barny: or heroes that outlasthit him
    2:12 PM - [BAMF]Barny: Tiny
    2:12 PM - [BAMF]Barny: NS
    2:12 PM - [BAMF]Barny: ect
    2:12 PM - [BAMF]Barny: Shadow Shaman
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  11. Post #3091
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    Sparrowsluck's Avatar
    July 2010
    1,921 Posts
    no he doesn't.

    Edited:

    2:12 PM - [BAMF]Barny: Bloodseeker is fucking annoying, but you push him out of lane with burst damage
    2:12 PM - [BAMF]Barny: or heroes that outlasthit him
    2:12 PM - [BAMF]Barny: Tiny
    2:12 PM - [BAMF]Barny: NS
    2:12 PM - [BAMF]Barny: ect
    2:12 PM - [BAMF]Barny: Shadow Shaman
    Beardy brings the arrogance and insults, Barny brings the actual information and good replies. You two make a good team.
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  12. Post #3092
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    Kendra's Avatar
    November 2008
    7,209 Posts
    If the save file is gone... holy shit.

    Remake but Valve lets Dendi have the Gnoll-turned-Eredar.
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  13. Post #3093
    Doughnuts's Avatar
    September 2011
    892 Posts
    no he doesn't.

    Edited:

    2:12 PM - [BAMF]Barny: Bloodseeker is fucking annoying, but you push him out of lane with burst damage
    2:12 PM - [BAMF]Barny: or heroes that outlasthit him
    2:12 PM - [BAMF]Barny: Tiny
    2:12 PM - [BAMF]Barny: NS
    2:12 PM - [BAMF]Barny: ect
    2:12 PM - [BAMF]Barny: Shadow Shaman
    Well its too bad pubs love squishy non burst damage heroes.
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  14. Post #3094
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    Smashman's Avatar
    September 2009
    11,796 Posts
    The VODs will be here.

    http://www.youtube.com/joindota
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  15. Post #3095
    Is that a rocket in your pocket?
    Dr.Scrake's Avatar
    March 2010
    8,412 Posts
    I've started doing DOTA 2 models!



    Thoughts on the head? Not done, obviously, but anything wrong with the shape?

    Also, any models you'd like seen done?
    armored pudge
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  16. Post #3096
    Doughnuts's Avatar
    September 2011
    892 Posts
    armored pudge
    A Pudge with a bib and diaper
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  17. Post #3097
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    Sparrowsluck's Avatar
    July 2010
    1,921 Posts
    You know, I think the thing that throws a lot of people off is how different games are balanced. I mean, LoL seems to be balanced around low/normal skilled people, which makes a bit of sense since that is the skill level of most of the community. So they make the game balanced for the largest amount of people that they can. This makes pub play better, but hurts their comp play. Dota/Dota 2 is generally balanced around the higher skill brackets. This makes pub play insanely unbalanced since you need people working together to shut some heroes down, and people working together is rare in pubs. At least working together to the degree you need to shut down some heroes. So Dota 2 pub play is a lot harder to deal with than LoL, but this makes their comp play incredible.
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  18. Post #3098
    I bought this title for 1 dollar
    titopei's Avatar
    April 2009
    8,519 Posts
    You know, I think the thing that throws a lot of people off is how different games are balanced. I mean, LoL seems to be balanced around low/normal skilled people, which makes a bit of sense since that is the skill level of most of the community. So they make the game balanced for the largest amount of people that they can. This makes pub play better, but hurts their comp play. Dota/Dota 2 is generally balanced around the higher skill brackets. This makes pub play insanely unbalanced since you need people working together to shut some heroes down, and people working together is rare in pubs. At least working together to the degree you need to shut down some heroes. So Dota 2 pub play is a lot harder to deal with than LoL, but this makes their comp play incredible.
    I always thought dota 2 was just lets make every hero op so that no hero is op.
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  19. Post #3099
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    Smashman's Avatar
    September 2009
    11,796 Posts
    Longest respawn ever...
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  20. Post #3100
    Murdoco's Avatar
    October 2009
    12,690 Posts
    Oh god that Courier Creep bug haha.
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  21. Post #3101
    funion is gay
    Zukriuchen's Avatar
    September 2009
    16,854 Posts
    You know, I think the thing that throws a lot of people off is how different games are balanced. I mean, LoL seems to be balanced around low/normal skilled people, which makes a bit of sense since that is the skill level of most of the community. So they make the game balanced for the largest amount of people that they can. This makes pub play better, but hurts their comp play. Dota/Dota 2 is generally balanced around the higher skill brackets. This makes pub play insanely unbalanced since you need people working together to shut some heroes down, and people working together is rare in pubs. At least working together to the degree you need to shut down some heroes. So Dota 2 pub play is a lot harder to deal with than LoL, but this makes their comp play incredible.
    I completely agree with everything you said, but I'd rather not start that kind of discussion because it ends in a shitstorm 99% of the time
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  22. Post #3102
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    Smashman's Avatar
    September 2009
    11,796 Posts
    COURIER CREEP = NEW METAGAME.
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  23. Post #3103
    I bought this title for 1 dollar
    titopei's Avatar
    April 2009
    8,519 Posts
    What happened to the courior? I was busy doing my homework then when I checked back to the stream everyone was laughing.
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  24. Post #3104
    Murdoco's Avatar
    October 2009
    12,690 Posts
    What happened to the courior? I was busy doing my homework then when I checked back to the stream everyone was laughing.
    It got attached the a creep and the courier was going one way and the creep was going another and they couldn't move. And when it got turned into a flying it was pulling the creep back to base.
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  25. Post #3105
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    Sparrowsluck's Avatar
    July 2010
    1,921 Posts
    What happened to the courior? I was busy doing my homework then when I checked back to the stream everyone was laughing.

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  26. Post #3106
    Doughnuts's Avatar
    September 2011
    892 Posts
    I really feel like the crash screwed na'vi over big time. The momentum was completely lost when enchant went on her 2 min respawn.
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  27. Post #3107
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    Smashman's Avatar
    September 2009
    11,796 Posts
    Well at least Valve can identify some bugs!
    I've noticed that Dire's courier looks like a Radiant courier after a reload too.
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  28. Post #3108
    Doughnuts's Avatar
    September 2011
    892 Posts
    Impetus is imba
    Riki is the new AM
    Courier is new creep, just revealed by valve.
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  29. Post #3109
    Dennab
    September 2011
    10,298 Posts
    gg Navi
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  30. Post #3110
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    Santz's Avatar
    June 2009
    6,866 Posts
    Just read all the new posts and of ALL heroes you newbies call Bloodseeker and Ursa OP? Oh god, you guys will be crying tears of blood when you meet Lord of Avernus, Visage and Troll Warlord.

    BS and Ursa are so easy to counter and we have explained that so many times, I dont get why you guys complain.
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  31. Post #3111
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    September 2009
    15,539 Posts
    because lol mentality.

    "i'm not good enough to counter him and he killed me, therefore he's op."
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  32. Post #3112
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    Sparrowsluck's Avatar
    July 2010
    1,921 Posts
    because lol mentality.

    "i'm not good enough to counter him and he killed me, therefore he's op."
    You must be pretty new to video games to think LoL started that mentality.

    I cannot remember any game that I have ever played where people didn't think like that.
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  33. Post #3113
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    smfE's Avatar
    April 2005
    2,855 Posts
    wow sick sick and awesome games from Na'vi vs Quantic! I was rooting for Quantic because they're my country men but Na'vi was just too good in the end. Pretty proud tho!
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  34. Post #3114
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    June 2005
    3,666 Posts
    You must be pretty new to video games to think LoL started that mentality.

    I cannot remember any game that I have ever played where people didn't think like that.
    LoL is the newest game where it's still common amongst pretty much the entirety of the playerbase, though.
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  35. Post #3115
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    Badunkadunk's Avatar
    December 2008
    3,519 Posts
    because lol mentality.

    "i'm not good enough to counter him and he killed me, therefore he's op."

    More like stubborn players who don't wanna learn from mistakes.
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  36. Post #3116
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    Jetamo's Avatar
    June 2008
    7,046 Posts


    Better or worse than other Sven head?
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  37. Post #3117
    I bought this title for 1 dollar
    titopei's Avatar
    April 2009
    8,519 Posts
    Just read all the new posts and of ALL heroes you newbies call Bloodseeker and Ursa OP? Oh god, you guys will be crying tears of blood when you meet Lord of Avernus, Visage and Troll Warlord.

    BS and Ursa are so easy to counter and we have explained that so many times, I dont get why you guys complain.
    Can't wait for a freefarming terrorblade.
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  38. Post #3118
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    July 2010
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    LoL is the newest game where it's still common amongst pretty much the entirety of the playerbase, though.
    Oh come on this is very rampant in many online games. TF2 for instance, I remember playing many games of that where at least one person per match was saying something was OP as fuck because it was kicking his ass. I see it CoD, Halo, Street Fighter, etc, etc, etc.

    I know we all like to be edgy and blame LoL and LoL players for everything wrong in dota 2 ever but it simply isn't the case most of the time.
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  39. Post #3119
    Doughnuts's Avatar
    September 2011
    892 Posts
    Oh come on this is very rampant in many online games. TF2 for instance, I remember playing many games of that where at least one person per match was saying something was OP as fuck because it was kicking his ass. I see it CoD, Halo, Street Fighter, etc, etc, etc.

    I know we all like to be edgy and blame LoL and LoL players for everything wrong in dota 2 ever but it simply isn't the case most of the time.
    Too bad in fighting games, the whole community can agree when something is broke. Crapcom, making unbalanced games since forever.
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  40. Post #3120
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    August 2008
    1,084 Posts
    I got my key today, I feel accepted for some reason even though its just a video game.
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