1. Post #2561
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    Panda X's Avatar
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    Now compare this to the Android version:


    Metro is pretty much the same.
    That's not relevant to my or your original point.

    You said if every browser tried to use metro, they would all look the same. Just because Firefox looks like Firefox, that doesn't mean Chrome or IE will look like Firefox in the Metro style.
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  2. Post #2562
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    Well, Firefox doesn't seem to be using Metro, that was the point of that post.
    It just uses the unified mobile UI Mozilla made.

    I just don't see how can all browsers not look the same with Metro UI. Most they can do is just toss some UI elements around, which won't really change a lot.
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  3. Post #2563
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    Metro apps don't just have to be black background with white controls.

    I just don't see how can all browsers not look the same with Metro UI. Most they can do is just toss some UI elements around, which won't really change a lot.
    Same could be said about desktop browsers too.
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  4. Post #2564
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    I disagree about the desktop browsers part. They use different UI elements, which is something that's not really a choice in true Metro.
    Let me show you this with iOS browsers:

    This is stock Safari:

    This is iCab, a third party browser:

    This is Terra:

    All three look very similar.

    The only browsers I found that did look different are the ones that did not explicitly follow iOS guidelines:
    Opera Mini:

    Dolphin Browser (which also totally doesn't look like Chrome):


    Sorry, but I seriously can't see how can a browser truly look Metro without looking like IE.
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  5. Post #2565
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    Well, Firefox doesn't seem to be using Metro, that was the point of that post.
    It just uses the unified mobile UI Mozilla made.
    The Firefox Desktop looks Metro.
    The Firefox Desktop also looks like Firefox Android.

    So, the point you're trying to make is that, although Firefox Desktop does look adequately Metro, it can also distinguish itself as Firefox quite easily?
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  6. Post #2566
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    The Firefox Desktop looks Metro.
    The Firefox Desktop also looks like Firefox Android.

    So, the point you're trying to make is that, although Firefox Desktop does look adequately Metro, it can also distinguish itself as Firefox quite easily?
    While it looks minimalistic, I really can't say that it's Metro.
    What I've been saying is that I don't think that it's possible to completely follow Metro guidelines and stay different.
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  7. Post #2567
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    While it looks minimalistic, I really can't say that it's Metro.
    What I've been saying is that I don't think that it's possible to completely follow Metro guidelines and stay different.
    Which part of the guideline does it not follow?
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  8. Post #2568
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    Well, it doesn't seem to be using Metro UI elements.
    The top bar makes the bottom app bar (charm?) redundant.
    The close tab icon is smaller than the recommended size (9mm)

    I'm reallt nit-picking right now, though.
    I guess I'm just used to Metro apps all looking like this:
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  9. Post #2569
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    Well it's just a concept, and they could use the app bar for other functions instead of the address and back controls.
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  10. Post #2570
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    Anyone know if that odd AMD display driver thing where you needed to rename a file was fixed in the RC? Figure I should know before I install it tomorrow.
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  11. Post #2571
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    So it was a user issue :)
    Or was it? Are his new permissions the same as someone else's install or is it a special tweak just for him?
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  12. Post #2572
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    dunno. it seems like every other windows is a piece of crap. And they are making a big ui change. might wanna wait 2 years while they iron out all the bugs and lameness
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  13. Post #2573
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    http://blog.chromium.org/2012/06/try...etro-mode.html
    Finally!

    Edited:

    I updated to a dev release, and all I got was a a new 'new tab' icon:


    No metro yet!
    "next Chrome Dev channel release"

    But glad that we'll be able to preview that.

    Also it kinda makes (a little) sense that they port the browser, UI and all to Metro (in dev) before they start Metro-izing it.
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  14. Post #2574
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    Hey Panda, I'm reading over at Neowin and a couple forum members are attributing the freezing to using google chrome and / or having power saving settings enabled on their NIC. Did you try messing with either of those when you had the RP installed?
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  15. Post #2575
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    Hey Panda, I'm reading over at Neowin and a couple forum members are attributing the freezing to using google chrome and / or having power saving settings enabled on their NIC. Did you try messing with either of those when you had the RP installed?
    I'm using chrome and it doesn't seem to be freezing for me.
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  16. Post #2576
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    Hey Panda, I'm reading over at Neowin and a couple forum members are attributing the freezing to using google chrome and / or having power saving settings enabled on their NIC. Did you try messing with either of those when you had the RP installed?
    NIC?
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  17. Post #2577
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    Network Interface Controller (Ethernet/wireless controller)
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  18. Post #2578
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    I've corrected a few of the things that are bothering me in photoshop.
    aligned a few icons properly, because Microsoft are incapable of it.
    Removed the awful light blue when a neutral grey should be used instead.
    And the superbar, I think it looks really weird with all the spare space on either side, so why not chop it off?

    I'm interested to see what they will do with those bloody awful gummy icons in the final version.



    Edited:

    Oh yeah, those awful pastel tabs that appear in the window controls, ditched them too as they are redundant.

    Edited:

    Also, the title for the window, wouldn't it be better if it lost the edge glow, and auto coloured itself, dark wallpaper, light text and vice versa.
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  19. Post #2579
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    I've corrected a few of the things that are bothering me in photoshop.
    I like the superbar cut off like that. Reminds me of the OSX dock.

    The ribbon needs those pastel tabs to clearly identify the sections that need to stand out. The darker separators don't cut it. The light grey is a lot better than the blue though, I will admit.
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  20. Post #2580
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    I like the superbar cut off like that. Reminds me of the OSX dock.

    The ribbon needs those pastel tabs to clearly identify the sections that need to stand out. The darker separators don't cut it. The light grey is a lot better than the blue though, I will admit.
    What about this, then?



    Edited:

    I just think everything needs to be fairly neutral, let your wallpaper set the colour scheme, don't go out melting everyone's eyeballs with clashing colours.
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  21. Post #2581
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    Hey Panda, I'm reading over at Neowin and a couple forum members are attributing the freezing to using google chrome and / or having power saving settings enabled on their NIC. Did you try messing with either of those when you had the RP installed?
    I've had the freezing when not using Chrome. As for NIC I haven't messed with it.
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  22. Post #2582

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    I have a Samsung Q1 (x86, 512 MB) with a 800 x 480 resistive touch screen. Would it benefit from Windows 8?
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  23. Post #2583
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    I have a Samsung Q1 (x86, 512 MB) with a 800 x 480 resistive touch screen. Would it benefit from Windows 8?
    I was gonna say it'll manage with a bit more ram. after looking it up I'm gonna have to say no.
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  24. Post #2584

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    Damn. I wish Android-x86 worked on it :(
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  25. Post #2585
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    I've had the freezing when not using Chrome. As for NIC I haven't messed with it.
    Have you tried it with chrome uninstalled?

    Edited:

    What about this, then?



    Edited:

    I just think everything needs to be fairly neutral, let your wallpaper set the colour scheme, don't go out melting everyone's eyeballs with clashing colours.
    A light gradient like what they're using for dialog buttons works too.

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  26. Post #2586
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    Have you tried it with chrome uninstalled?
    I doubt having Chrome just on disk is going to cause a whole OS to fail.
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  27. Post #2587
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    not going to upgrade until there is some sort of start menu mod for the latest window 8 build
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  28. Post #2588
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    Have you tried it with chrome uninstalled?

    Edited:



    A light gradient like what they're using for dialog buttons works too.

    I think the lighter tabs fit due to the fact they're special tabs.
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  29. Post #2589
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    If people are looking to put the effort into integrating the start menu on to Windows 8 surely if you're not looking to embrace the changes in the OS, why not look into porting Windows 8 features to Windows 7 that way you're not going to be chasing Microsoft on every change?
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  30. Post #2590
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    not going to upgrade until there is some sort of start menu mod for the latest window 8 build
    All old mods still work for the RP.
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  31. Post #2591
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  32. Post #2592
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    I'm using Start8 by Stardock on my Windows 8 RP laptop. Runs great, and feels integrated, with PNG "Start Orb" theme support.
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  33. Post #2593
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    I'm using Start8 by Stardock on my Windows 8 RP laptop. Runs great, and feels integrated, with PNG "Start Orb" theme support.
    My complaint about Start8 is that it's just the start screen resized and doesn't really work when that small in terms of amount of content shown.

    It would work better if it was a mix between the start screen and start menu like these concepts a friend of mine made:

    http://tehoscatuni.tumblr.com/post/2...ment-prototype
    http://tehoscatuni.tumblr.com/post/2...-quite-special
    http://tehoscatuni.tumblr.com/post/23057425680
    http://cl.ly/HFOL/o
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  34. Post #2594
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    I have Windows 8 on my laptop.
    It's running faster, but the design looks ugly, and sometimes, it freeze.
    I guess it's my laptop :D
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  35. Post #2595
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    I disagree about the desktop browsers part. They use different UI elements, which is something that's not really a choice in true Metro.
    Let me show you this with iOS browsers:

    This is stock Safari:

    This is iCab, a third party browser:

    This is Terra:

    All three look very similar.

    The only browsers I found that did look different are the ones that did not explicitly follow iOS guidelines:
    Opera Mini:

    Dolphin Browser (which also totally doesn't look like Chrome):


    Sorry, but I seriously can't see how can a browser truly look Metro without looking like IE.
    If you ask me - if you enter a system with design and style guidelines (ios, windows aero, windows metro, OSx) you should follow the design guidelines from the system. in that case Opera on Ios is bad - because it forces it's own design paradigm.

    In the same vein Safari or Itunes on windows is bad as well, as they force their own design paradigm on windows.
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  36. Post #2596
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    My complaint about Start8 is that it's just the start screen resized and doesn't really work when that small in terms of amount of content shown.

    It would work better if it was a mix between the start screen and start menu like these concepts a friend of mine made:

    http://tehoscatuni.tumblr.com/post/2...ment-prototype
    http://tehoscatuni.tumblr.com/post/2...-quite-special
    http://tehoscatuni.tumblr.com/post/23057425680
    http://cl.ly/HFOL/o
    But then you now have 3 "start" screens. I think that's even more confusing.
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  37. Post #2597
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    i don't think the point is you use all 3 at the same time
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  38. Post #2598
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    So I've just moved over to Windows 8 from Windows 7, and I must say, I'm impressed! It's fast as hell and looks beautiful. Still a bit confusing in places, had to use Task Manager to get myself out of the 'settings' area. I don't know if it's the install wizard, but my USB wireless adapter (Which doesn't work properly out of the box with Linux, nevermind Windows 7) worked straight from install, graphics drivers worked fine. Had to install Realtek drivers for sound but that was no issue. Wireless is fast as hell too!
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  39. Post #2599
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    Right because microshit has not put basic thought into that programs might want to use IE to load stuff without any tinkering I am leaving it.
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  40. Post #2600
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    Right because microshit has not put basic thought into that programs might want to use IE to load stuff without any tinkering I am leaving it.
    What?
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