1. Post #121
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    Zezibesh's Avatar
    May 2008
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    But isn't Evangelion full of the clichés that make stereotypical anime criticism?
    Socially awkward boy, unrealistically big-chested 14 year old girls, several moments exploring the connection of the two



    The rest of the story is fairly interesting, though. (except for the last two episodes)
    It's actually not archetypal at all, you're oversimplifying it

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  2. Post #122
    MEGA SENPAI KAWAII UGUU~~ =^_^=
    Megafan's Avatar
    September 2008
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    actually it ends up exactly like that


    go read the manga my lovelies
    Even that part, like the rest of the manga, was steeped in Japanese culture.
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  3. Post #123
    Mr. Scorpio's Avatar
    May 2010
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    Even that part, like the rest of the manga, was steeped in Japanese culture.
    im surprised you haven't brought up Lupin the third yet

    that series is almost always fucking amazing
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  4. Post #124
    I'm a Wizard
    Olas's Avatar
    March 2006
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    im surprised you haven't brought up Lupin the third yet

    that series is almost always fucking amazing
    It was the first anime I ever watched. The original movie and tv series were great, the newer movies are pretty good too.
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  5. Post #125
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    November 2011
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    I personally find it a bit odd, but also (some of it) quite amusing. If people like anime, let them like it!
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  6. Post #126
    MEGA SENPAI KAWAII UGUU~~ =^_^=
    Megafan's Avatar
    September 2008
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    im surprised you haven't brought up Lupin the third yet

    that series is almost always fucking amazing
    Lupin the 3rd is also really good, but it's not really about Japan or Japanese culture, as it takes place in various world locations, with Lupin being half-French/half-Japanese.
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  7. Post #127
    Mr. Scorpio's Avatar
    May 2010
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    Lupin the 3rd is also really good, but it's not really about Japan or Japanese culture, as it takes place in various world locations, with Lupin being half-French/half-Japanese.
    who cares

    it's good anime made in japan by the japanese(and some koreans)
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  8. Post #128
    MEGA SENPAI KAWAII UGUU~~ =^_^=
    Megafan's Avatar
    September 2008
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    who cares

    it's good anime made in japan by the japanese(and some koreans)
    I get that, I was just remarking on the essence of the story being told.

    It is good.
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  9. Post #129
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    December 2008
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    Anime is fine all within itself, but I think that it's those rabid fans who only watch anime that give it a bad name.
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  10. Post #130
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    June 2011
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    first off, I'm an asian that doesn't particularly like anime/manga, however I'm fine, sometimes curious when white people read it.

    however, there is thing that make me think "ew" when looking at other people reading it

    japanese characters in certain scenes when the rest of the thing is in english
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  11. Post #131
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    June 2007
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    Anime isn't terrible in some cases. I genuinely enjoyed Gurren Lagann. As for the ~moe~ genre, I'm definitely not a fan.

    It's just like anything else - you enjoy what you enjoy, you don't have to look at what you don't.
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  12. Post #132
    imasillypiggy's Avatar
    December 2009
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    Compared to american animation animes art style tend to stay the same. Its true that art styles change but most keep the same. I'm not hating on anime i'm just saying.
    Though I can't stand most current anime (2008-11) because the medium seems to be stuck at this one point (All characters feeling unrealistic and the same, anime being more girly and less manly, all about highschool, ect). Its kind of like when the gaming industry only made cod clones and since I don't like cod I just have to wait until they move somewhere else.

    Edited:

    Anime isn't terrible in some cases. I genuinely enjoyed Gurren Lagann. As for the ~moe~ genre, I'm definitely not a fan.

    It's just like anything else - you enjoy what you enjoy, you don't have to look at what you don't.
    I did too. I haven't really found an anime that feels the same besides maybe diebuster.
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  13. Post #133
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    May 2011
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    There's a few diamonds in the shitpile. Cromartie High School, everything by that guy who made Howl's Moving Castle, stuff like that.
    This. His stuff is the only anime I watch (although I'm open to finding other good nuggets of anime as well), apart from a few episodes of DBZ. I've been told to watch Death Note, is it any good?
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  14. Post #134
    Ask me about my secret society of Jihadist Mexican Lobsters
    Michael haxz's Avatar
    July 2010
    1,270 Posts
    It's not that I hate anime

    It's that I hate the fan base which kills it somewhat in my opinion
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  15. Post #135
    imasillypiggy's Avatar
    December 2009
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    This. His stuff is the only anime I watch, apart from a few episodes of DBZ. I've been told to watch Death Note, is it any good?
    Yea. Its one of those anime that are watched by people that don't even like anime.
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  16. Post #136
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    February 2009
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    cause it's weird
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  17. Post #137
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    Dennab
    March 2008
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    Anime is terrible if it's that kawaii desu~~~ shit.

    But other anime like Ghost in the Shell, Dragon Ball & Z, as well as anything by Hayao Miyazak (the only real examples I can think of) is generally pretty good; to me atleast.
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  18. Post #138
    DANCE YOU FOOLS
    LiquidNazgul's Avatar
    November 2007
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    Anime is a category of entertainment media originally made to target Eastern audiences with a different taste. Saying anime suck is pretty much the same as saying all animated cartoons suck, regardless of title and subgenre. It is incredibly unreasonable and bias to say all anime suck because those who say it usually only heard of horrible mainstream titles like Naruto and think all anime is like that while it is not, and it's usually the Westerners who grew up in a completely different culture would say things like this.

    Imagine a bunch of Asians insulting all cartoon shows including the ones you were grown up with, simply because they saw shows that doesn't fit their taste.

    Edited:

    It's also dumb when people automatically associate those who watches anime as weaboos. Being a weaboo is a "lifestyle" people chooses because they are obsessed with it. Not everyone who watches anime develops chronic obsession, just like not every Harry Potter fan have twenty posters of it in their room, draws a scar on their forehead, have a wand collection, and/or wears black capes and round spectacles..
    Fixed, only because you don't really hear much hate on Lucky Star, more on Naruto, Bleach, and One Piece. But that's not to say there isn't those who look at LS and wonder how anime is even popular. I personally thought Lucky Star was all right, but it really appeals to a specific audience (gamers, otakus, etc.)

    While we're on Bleach (were we even on Bleach? eh) I want to say it has one of the best soundtracks in anime I've ever heard. Though it's overused as FUUUCK

    This. His stuff is the only anime I watch (although I'm open to finding other good nuggets of anime as well), apart from a few episodes of DBZ. I've been told to watch Death Note, is it any good?
    It's all right, but ignore people that say that it's "deep" or "intricate". It's entirely focused on the murdering spree of a psychopath that believes he's doing the world justice. How he goes about it and his other schemes are pretty elaborate, but that's it.
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  19. Post #139
    imasillypiggy's Avatar
    December 2009
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    I would say best sound track in anime history would have to go to gurren lagann (panty and stocking would definitely be on the list).
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  20. Post #140
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    October 2009
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    From my perspective (Which may be narrow). I'm not saying its bad at all.
    I dislike it for multiple reasons

    -The art style, and just the art itself. It feels ridiculous. I don't like the way it looks either.
    -Exaggerations in emotion (facial expressions, etc.) Its really silly and weird. I can't take it. Other people can though but not me.
    -The culture influence. It feels inspired by Asian cultures too much. I can't relate to some themes.
    -The story/plot can be just ridiculous in general. Characters can be so random.
    -The voice acting can be really bad from what I've seen. I'm sure this isn't true with other anime.

    To sum up I just think its too silly, random and absurd. I can't enjoy it but if other people can then I suppose its good for them.
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  21. Post #141
    imasillypiggy's Avatar
    December 2009
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    Not all (even though most) are like that. An example I guess would be kaiji or deathnote.
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  22. Post #142
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    This. His stuff is the only anime I watch (although I'm open to finding other good nuggets of anime as well), apart from a few episodes of DBZ. I've been told to watch Death Note, is it any good?
    The name you're looking for is Hayao Miyazaki. He fucking rocks.

    Personally, I thought Death Note was alright until all of the emo and goth people found out about it and essentially abused it.
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  23. Post #143
    Wait... so if I write anything here, it's going to show up under my name?
    B!N4RY's Avatar
    December 2009
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    cause it's weird
    A++ quality argument right here
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  24. Post #144
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    July 2009
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    The name you're looking for is Hayao Miyazaki. He fucking rocks.

    Personally, I thought Death Note was alright until all of the emo and goth people found out about it and essentially abused it.
    True. Also, Near and Mello.
    Terrible decisions...
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  25. Post #145
    bull3tmagn3t's Avatar
    August 2008
    1,455 Posts
    I think the thing that bothers me are the quiet asian kids who get facebook and their profile pictures are anime.
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  26. Post #146
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    May 2010
    11,298 Posts
    I think the thing that bothers me are the quiet asian kids who get facebook and their profile pictures are anime.
    why do you care what other people do, especially when they're other people on the internet you have no immediate affiliation with

    Edited:

    True. Also, Near and Mello.
    Terrible decisions...
    you sir just earned yourself a high five and a cookie
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  27. Post #147
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    The Anime Adaptation of "Supernatural" wasn't bad, but then again it was an Adaptation of a western TV show, so it really doesn't count.

    I thought Code Geas was a great Anime as well, the First season anyways, 2nd was not as good.

    And Future Diaries, but again its all about the individual persons tastes.
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  28. Post #148
    CD drives eject stuff, my ass ejects stuff, therefore my ass must be a CD drive.
    ProWaffle's Avatar
    July 2009
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    In general I dislike anime, although there have been a few series that I've thoroughly enjoyed like Death Note and Fullmetal Alchemist. In my opinion, anime is plagued with a lot of crap, but if you sift through it you might find something good.
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  29. Post #149
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    June 2007
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    The Anime Adaptation of "Supernatural" wasn't bad, but then again it was an Adaptation of a western TV show, so it really doesn't count.

    I thought Code Geas was a great Anime as well, the First season anyways, 2nd was not as good.

    And Future Diaries, but again its all about the individual persons tastes.
    Code Geass' first season was pretty good. Second season was a rushed pile of shit.

    Also, as many have said, Studio Ghibli films are phenomenal.
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  30. Post #150
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    July 2009
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    The Anime Adaptation of "Supernatural" wasn't bad, but then again it was an Adaptation of a western TV show, so it really doesn't count.
    I love the show... So I never watched the anime...

    you sir just earned yourself a high five and a cookie
    I like chocolate chip :)
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  31. Post #151
    provides mlp plot free of charge
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    February 2011
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    -The culture influence. It feels inspired by Asian cultures too much. I can't relate to some themes.
    Maybe because it's made by asians?
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  32. Post #152
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    July 2009
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    But isn't Evangelion full of the clichés that make stereotypical anime criticism?
    Socially awkward boy, unrealistically big-chested 14 year old girls, several moments exploring the connection of the two
    You know I haven't actually watched Evangelion but I'm pretty sure every teenage female in it is as skinny as a twig.
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  33. Post #153
    provides mlp plot free of charge
    Oicani Gonzales's Avatar
    February 2011
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    yeah well you be the judge

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  34. Post #154
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    July 2008
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    Umm, that's fanart.

    And Mari doesn't really count because she is from the Rebuild movies.
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  35. Post #155
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    February 2011
    8 Posts
    You can bash it all you want but really it's just part of their culture. Many other foreign countries may look at our movies and say the same thing. For example, almost all american movies have happy endings.
    If you don't care for Anime, then there's no need to debate it.
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  36. Post #156

    January 2012
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    I think there's nothing wrong with anime itself, but the fans are horrible. I've yet to find someone who is both a fan of anime and capable of not making an ass of themselves, and I have no idea why these two have to be mutually exclusive. My friends have found the same, so if I had to guess, a lot of the hatred for it comes from the serious lack of maturity in the fans.
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  37. Post #157
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    August 2007
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    Just like MLP the fanbase gives anime a bad name
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  38. Post #158
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    May 2011
    3,056 Posts
    I think there's nothing wrong with anime itself, but the fans are horrible. I've yet to find someone who is both a fan of anime and capable of not making an ass of themselves, and I have no idea why these two have to be mutually exclusive. My friends have found the same, so if I had to guess, a lot of the hatred for it comes from the serious lack of maturity in the fans.
    I went to an "anime club" once, genuinely interested in seeing some cool anime. Half the meeting was trying to hook a PS3 up to a TV while everyone drew shitty comics everywhere, then everyone went outside to play "ninja", then it was mostly yelling at each other over stupid shit.

    In case you're wondering, two of them were autistic, three wore cat ears, and five or so spouted nothing but Kawaii~~~ shit out of their mouths. I never went back.
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  39. Post #159
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    May 2008
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    I'm wondering, what exactly IS "kawaii~~~" anyway? And don't give me that whole "kawaii desu desu uguu ^_^" crap, that's excessive generalization, I want to know what it really is and how to identify it.
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  40. Post #160
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    December 2009
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    I remember my highschool anime club being cool until the weaboos and cod kiddies ruined it. As soon as the girl with the badly made cat ears and tail came in I knew it was over. The anime club got shut down because some neck beard got angry that we wouldn't let him grope (hug) the girls after they told him to stop and told the teacher that we didn't have an adviser.
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