1. Post #1
    Captain Nerdy's Avatar
    February 2010
    64 Posts
    Hey everyone,
    My name is Aaron Houillon and I am the director/producer for an in-the-works machinima project called The Delta Vector. It has grown from a small, goof-off video between my friends and I to a projected feature-length (90-120 minutes) film. Because of that, I am going to need a lot more help if I'm going to see this project through to the end, which I most assuredly will. First, some information about the film:

    Summary: The Global Coalition has become the world's first and only one-world government, uniting the world under a common currency and tongue by trading storehouses of the Earth's quickly-dwindling supplies of drinkable water for peace between nations and the power to rule them. However, the human cost of maintaining this empire is brutal, as a harsh Orwellian police state rises to keep a firm grip on the peace gained by the GC's efforts. When state-sponsored brutality isn't enough, the GC begins to conduct experiments on the human mind to pacify its citizens. In the midst of this chaotic new world order, a guerrilla resistance movement called The Delta Vector emerges from ordinary citizens who have seen through the GC's veil of peace. Out of this movement, an elite squad of the Delta Vector's best soldiers, known as the White Knights, has risen up to undertake a bold and daring plot that could decide the fate of human civilization. It is up to each man to confront his inner demons before taking on the squad's most fearsome challenge yet.

    Those who are interested can read the script here: https://docs.google.com/open?id=0Bxh...I4ZGU5NGVmNWNj
    I will update the script on Google Docs as I work on it. So far Episode 1 is complete and Episode 2 is in progress.

    A Community Effort:

    Here's how this is going to work. The script (and subsequently the film) will be feature-length, around 90-120 minutes. The script is not finalized and is being written as an ongoing process, although I do have a framework for how the film will play itself out. The film will be released to YouTube in episodes running between 9 and 12 minutes or so until the film is completed in its entirety. It will then be uploaded to YouTube as a seamless, whole movie. This film is being made for free and is fueled by volunteers, so I cannot promise any monetary compensation. I envision this to be a community-based effort, and while it is possible for me and a few friends to make this movie, it will take a LOT more time and will be substantially lower in quality than what I know the Garry's Mod community is capable of. I hope that we can come together to create a high-quality, engaging, community-driven film.

    Given the scope of this project, it will take one to two years to complete. I understand that the work put forward for this project will be all volunteer work, and as such YOU DO NOT NEED TO STAY ON THE PROJECT FOR ITS ENTIRETY. Rather, I will treat requests for work as a contract. For example, if I need a texture for a 3D model or an entirely new 3D model itself, I will send a request to every modeler/texture artist on the list. Whoever can get the job done gets a credit in the film and their work featured. I also understand that because this is volunteer work, most of you have lives outside of this community and as a result this movie will fall low on the priority list, as it should be. However, I do want to get this film done before my grandkids graduate college, so I will expect timely, professional work. I do hope that if you volunteer to work on this movie, that you take it as seriously as I do, though I know that it should be a learning experience for everyone involved, and hopefully we'll have some fun times too.

    What We Need:

    For each role that you wish to volunteer for, send a personal message to me stating what position you would like to apply for, why you think you can fulfill the role and why you want to help out on this movie. Please check the role description for any further information you should include in your application.

    Keep in mind that while I will put a limit on the number of volunteers for a given role, it is more than likely that if you apply for a role, you will get it. I will update this post to reflect whether I am accepting applicants or not.

    3D Model Artist Accepting
    Volunteers for this role need to be able to create props from a description and accompanying concept art/photos. Props should be appropriately sized and integrated into Garry's Mod/Source Engine. Must be able to create necessary materials from the model for use by texture artists. Models should be high quality, but optimized for efficient rendering in the Source Engine. The applicant should have a knowledge of Source Engine compiling parameters and needs to be able to compile props to NPC bodygroups according to specifications by the producer. Applicants should include photos and/or video of previous work along with any past credits in projects, if applicable.

    Texture Artist Accepting
    Volunteers for this role need to be able to create textures from a description and accompanying concept art/photos for various 3D models created by the 3D model artists. Textures should fit the prop correctly and need to follow specifications by the producer regarding color scheme, design, etc. Textures need to be converted to the proper format for the Source Engine, including .vtf and .vmt files. Applicants should include photos of previous work along with any past credits in projects, if applicable.

    Voice Actor Accepting
    Volunteers for this role need a quality microphone, and little else. No experience necessary. Note that most specific roles for the film have already been cast, although voices for minor characters, such as soldiers and citizens of both sexes, are still needed. The need for this role will change frequently with the script changes - check again for any available roles after an episode has been finalized.

    Animator Accepting
    Volunteers for this role need to be able to create realistic, fluid animations from a description and accompanying concept art/photos. They should have a solid knowledge of Source Engine compiling techniques and need to be able to compile custom animations for use in the Faceposer tool in the Source SDK. Lip-sync animation is not needed. Subtle animation will be needed along with combat animation, so, while not necessary, it is in the animator's favor to know both styles. Applicants should include video of previous work along with any past credits in projects, if applicable.

    Optional Roles:
    These roles are not critically needed for the film, but will make the movie much better in quality, not to mention much more unique. Or it will simply make my job much easier.

    Mapper Accepting
    Volunteers for this role need to be able to create functioning, high-quality maps according to specifications and concept art/photos/video. Maps must load without errors, be optimized for performance and to prevent memory leaks, and must be visually appealing according to the needs of the scene. Maps must also be to scale to NPCs. No scripting knowledge is necessary. Applicants should include photos/video of their previous work along with any past credits in projects, if applicable.

    Story Consultant Accepting
    Volunteers for this role need to be able to give critical feedback on the story as a whole as well as individual revisions of the script. No experience necessary, although past experience as a story consultant and/or an author of any kind of literature is definitely a plus. Applicants should include excerpts from past work, if any, and any past credits in projects, if applicable.

    Epilogue
    Do you think there is a role that you can fulfill and you don't see it here? Chances are I can use your help - send me a personal message with what you think you can do and I'll do my best to include you in the project.

    You can follow the progress of the film at www.facebook.com/TheDeltaVector or find us on YouTube at www.youtube.com/rollingbarrelfilms
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  2. Post #2
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    minilandstan's Avatar
    September 2009
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    Quick tip kid, don't expect this to go very far. Even if you get everyone to help you, you've got a slim chance to actually complete it.

    You might want to stick to smaller machinimas before you leap into gmod movies. You'll get the same popularity in the same amount of time.
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  3. Post #3
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    So what are you going to do, just to ask?

    It's just that we've had several "massive machinima projects" in the past that just basically surmounted to an ideas guy wanting everyone to do all the work for him/her.

    No offense if you're actually going to contribute in development with modeling/texturing etc. but I just want to check.

  4. Post #4
    Don't get into GMod feature movies. Nobody watches feature-length movies anymore and they never survive production.

  5. Post #5
    Go on youtube and count the number of feature-length gmod machinimas.

    Now search facepunch for the number of feature-length machinimas that have been proposed.

  6. Post #6
    My name is Aaron Houillon and I am the director/producer for an in-the-works machinima project called The Delta Vector. It has grown from a small, goof-off video between my friends and I to a projected feature-length (90-120 minutes) film. Because of that, I am going to need a lot more help if I'm going to see this project through to the end, which I most assuredly will. First, some information about the film:
    Mmhmmm. Something that has grown from a "goof-off" video won't last. I guarantee it.

    Summary: The Global Coalition has become the world's first and only one-world government, uniting the world under a common currency and tongue by trading storehouses of the Earth's quickly-dwindling supplies of drinkable water for peace between nations and the power to rule them.
    Mhm Alri-WAIT BACK THE FUCK UP. /WATER/ IS RUNNING OUT?
    That does not work, At all, Scientifically, At all. Really. I mean, Do you understand what all those massive water purification plants are? They're specifically designed to cleanse and purify waste water into drinkable/bathable water. We would NEVER run out of drinking water unless suddenly the oceans just went POOF.

    However, the human cost of maintaining this empire is brutal, as a harsh Orwellian police state rises to keep a firm grip on the peace gained by the GC's efforts.
    Mmh.. continue.

    When state-sponsored brutality isn't enough, the GC begins to conduct experiments on the human mind to pacify its citizens. In the midst of this chaotic new world order, a guerrilla resistance movement called The Delta Vector emerges from ordinary citizens who have seen through the GC's veil of peace.
    Uhh.. And how can these people rebel against them? And how is it a BAD thing if everyone's peaceful, Even if their thoughts are being controlled?


    Out of this movement, an elite squad of the Delta Vector's best soldiers, known as the White Knights, has risen up to undertake a bold and daring plot that could decide the fate of human civilization. It is up to each man to confront his inner demons before taking on the squad's most fearsome challenge yet.
    Jesus christ that name is trite. Not only that but it seems to me like your main characters are really vindictive war-mongering bastards who are ruining eternal blissful peace purely because WE DUN LIKE GUVENREMENT!

    Here's how this is going to work. The script (and subsequently the film) will be feature-length, around 90-120 minutes. The script is not finalized and is being written as an ongoing process, although I do have a framework for how the film will play itself out. The film will be released to YouTube in episodes running between 9 and 12 minutes or so until the film is completed in its entirety.
    Why not just make the entire thing into one long film? It'd be a waste of time to cut episodes instead of a massive movie.

    This film is being made for free and is fueled by volunteers, so I cannot promise any monetary compensation. I envision this to be a community-based effort, and while it is possible for me and a few friends to make this movie, it will take a LOT more time and will be substantially lower in quality than what I know the Garry's Mod community is capable of. I hope that we can come together to create a high-quality, engaging, community-driven film.
    The problem is. Nobody will do model/anim work for free unless they REALLY love the project. And to be honest your plot is incredibly holed and very trite.

    Given the scope of this project, it will take one to two years to complete. I understand that the work put forward for this project will be all volunteer work, and as such YOU DO NOT NEED TO STAY ON THE PROJECT FOR ITS ENTIRETY. Rather, I will treat requests for work as a contract. For example, if I need a texture for a 3D model or an entirely new 3D model itself, I will send a request to every modeler/texture artist on the list. Whoever can get the job done gets a credit in the film and their work featured.
    That's VERY backwards/wrong. You're essentially saying "if you do it shitty i won't credit you at all."
    I also understand that because this is volunteer work, most of you have lives outside of this community and as a result this movie will fall low on the priority list, as it should be. However, I do want to get this film done before my grandkids graduate college, so I will expect timely, professional work. I do hope that if you volunteer to work on this movie, that you take it as seriously as I do, though I know that it should be a learning experience for everyone involved, and hopefully we'll have some fun times too.
    "DO ME WORK FAST DO IT FREE AND DO IT WHEN I WANT IT HOW I WANT IT. It'll be fun!"
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  7. Post #7
    Captain Nerdy's Avatar
    February 2010
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    So what are you going to do, just to ask?

    It's just that we've had several "massive machinima projects" in the past that just basically surmounted to an ideas guy wanting everyone to do all the work for him/her.

    No offense if you're actually going to contribute in development with modeling/texturing etc. but I just want to check.
    I'm writing the script, voice acting one of the characters, doing the cinematography/video editing, doing the sound editing, and coordinating this whole project.

  8. Post #8
    Voice Actor Accepting
    Volunteers for this role need a quality microphone, and little else. No experience necessary. Note that most specific roles for the film have already been cast, although voices for minor characters, such as soldiers and citizens of both sexes, are still needed. The need for this role will change frequently with the script changes - check again for any available roles after an episode has been finalized.
    This caught my eye. Really. You can't do it like that. You always have to work your videos around the voice acting. the valve dev wiki says this as the FIRST THING on faceposer. You CANNOT just edit it in afterward. Unless you like mismatched scenes.

    Edited:

    I'm writing the script, voice acting one of the characters, doing the cinematography/video editing, doing the sound editing, and coordinating this whole project.
    So basically, The bits which require the least effort overall?

  9. Post #9
    Look, mate.

    Do you have any prior experience with managing a project on this scale, over the internet no less?

    If yes, then props to you, you're in the top 0.1% of the population.

    Though, self-evidently, the probability of this being true is only 0.1%, so I expect this will never get off the ground.

  10. Post #10
    Captain Nerdy's Avatar
    February 2010
    64 Posts
    Mmhmmm. Something that has grown from a "goof-off" video won't last. I guarantee it.
    Believe me, the story has matured A LOT since the beginning. I suggest you take a look at the script.
    Mhm Alri-WAIT BACK THE FUCK UP. /WATER/ IS RUNNING OUT?
    That does not work, At all, Scientifically, At all. Really. I mean, Do you understand what all those massive water purification plants are? They're specifically designed to cleanse and purify waste water into drinkable/bathable water. We would NEVER run out of drinking water unless suddenly the oceans just went POOF.
    Take a look at these: http://247wallst.com/2010/10/29/the-...g-of-thirst/2/
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/newswee...d-s-water.html
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/newswee...ter-fight.html
    http://wn.com/china_builds_dam_on_river_brahmaputra
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-Day_War#Water_dispute

    Mmh.. continue.



    Uhh.. And how can these people rebel against them? And how is it a BAD thing if everyone's peaceful, Even if their thoughts are being controlled?
    The movie's basically asking what freedom truly means. Even if you can have anything you want through machine-induced fantasy, is it really freedom if it means you have to sell the rest of your life?
    Jesus christ that name is trite. Not only that but it seems to me like your main characters are really vindictive war-mongering bastards who are ruining eternal blissful peace purely because WE DUN LIKE GUVENREMENT!
    Suit yourself. You don't have to agree with me.
    Why not just make the entire thing into one long film? It'd be a waste of time to cut episodes instead of a massive movie.
    I'd like to actually have tangible goals and results as the movie is made, to see the movie coming together over time. This is also a way to build up a fanbase and not just emerge from a dark cave 2 years later with a finished movie under my arm.
    The problem is. Nobody will do model/anim work for free unless they REALLY love the project. And to be honest your plot is incredibly holed and very trite.
    Again, I urge you to read the script. I apologize if the summary turns you off; I don't know if you've written a script before but it's harder than it looks, especially to condense the whole story into an appealing summary.
    That's VERY backwards/wrong. You're essentially saying "if you do it shitty i won't credit you at all."
    What I meant by that was that I know that I can't just have a 3d modeler/texture artist waiting at my beck and call to do some work for me. So if someone's not available, that's cool, I'll just ask someone else to do it. If I don't like something someone made, I'll give them feedback until it's done right, then they'll get their work featured. I did not mean it to sound like a winner-takes-all, may-the-best-artist-win type of competition for work. And all work will be credited, not just what I like.

    "DO ME WORK FAST DO IT FREE AND DO IT WHEN I WANT IT HOW I WANT IT. It'll be fun!"
    Geez, you're a bit uptight about this. I don't think you understand that this is a volunteer project. You're supposed to do it because you want to, not because I want you to. If you're not interested, no worries, just don't volunteer.

    Edited:

    This caught my eye. Really. You can't do it like that. You always have to work your videos around the voice acting. the valve dev wiki says this as the FIRST THING on faceposer. You CANNOT just edit it in afterward. Unless you like mismatched scenes.

    Edited:



    So basically, The bits which require the least effort overall?
    Here's how it works: I write the script, adding in any roles and lines that I need. Once the episode is finalized, meaning the script is done, I put out requests for the voice actors to fill in whatever roles I need. I record the audio, I put it through faceposer, then film the results in the movie. I'm not stupid, I know how this stuff works.

    Regarding my roles: it's not fair to give criticism on what roles are easy or not unless you've done them yourself. Perhaps you have a script you'd like to share?

  11. Post #11
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    Buddy, it's good that you want to do something this ambitious, but c'mon, these types of things show up every month or so. They always end badly.I've yet to see a single one of these projects take off and become successful. I mean, I wish you luck, but realistically, it's not going to happen.

  12. Post #12
    Excuse me, but there's a difference between isolated regions losing freshwater because of changing climate, and the entire world losing water full stop.

    If this is the future, then there have surely been advances in energy production, making mass desalination of seawater a viable method of procuring water.
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    February 2010
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    Excuse me, but there's a difference between isolated regions losing freshwater because of changing climate, and the entire world losing water full stop.

    If this is the future, then there have surely been advances in energy production, making mass desalination of seawater a viable method of procuring water.
    Near future, as in 10 years into the future. We're not going to have mass desalination by then.

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    Near future, as in 10 years into the future. We're not going to have mass desalination by then.
    We're not going to have global water shortages by then.
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    Captain Nerdy's Avatar
    February 2010
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    We're not going to have global water shortages by then.
    I'm not predicting the damn future, I'm trying to tell a story.

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    I'm not predicting the damn future, I'm trying to tell a story.
    If you're going to tell a story you'd better get the facts right.

    Edited:

    I could write a story about flying space bananas that shoot tits and lazerbeems. But if i set it next year it wouldn't work.

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    If you're going to tell a story you'd better get the facts right.

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    I could write a story about flying space bananas that shoot tits and lazerbeems. But if i set it next year it wouldn't work.
    What if someone just revealed that they created flying space bananas that shoot tits and laser beams?

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    Captain Nerdy's Avatar
    February 2010
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    Sigh... haha It seems that I've forgotten that this was the Internet.

  19. Post #19
    I'm not predicting the damn future, I'm trying to tell a story.
    Okay let me put this another way.

    The plot about mass water shortages shatters my suspension of disbelief.

    What also breaks my suspension of disbelief is that you think that this project will actually go somewhere.

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    What if someone just revealed that they created flying space bananas that shoot tits and laser beams?
    Then WE'RE IN THE MONEY! WE'RE IN THE MOONEYYY
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    February 2010
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    Okay let me put this another way.

    The plot about mass water shortages shatters my suspension of disbelief.

    What also breaks my suspension of disbelief is that you think that this project will actually go somewhere.
    What's so hard to believe about that? Would an outside trigger for a disaster like that make it more believable, like a passing comet leaving material in most water rendering it undrinkable? And it's not so much running out of water completely as it is companies acquiring control of the water supplies that are left.

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    What's so hard to believe about that? Would an outside trigger for a disaster like that make it more believable, like a passing comet leaving material in most water rendering it undrinkable? And it's not so much running out of water completely as it is companies acquiring control of the water supplies that are left.
    >passing comet

    DO YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT SCIENCE WHATSOEVER?!
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    What's so hard to believe about that? Would an outside trigger for a disaster like that make it more believable, like a passing comet leaving material in most water rendering it undrinkable? And it's not so much running out of water completely as it is companies acquiring control of the water supplies that are left.
    Okay that makes sense I guess. However you'd also need to explain why people can't just take seawater and boil it.

    My second point still stands.

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    >passing comet

    DO YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT SCIENCE WHATSOEVER?!
    Comets are only about 90% water. There's some nasty shit locked up in there, I wouldn't want to drink it.

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    February 2010
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    So let's say a comet dissolves in the atmosphere or something and covers most of the world's water with some poisonous crap. That would also explain how boiling seawater wouldn't work. You also have to consider that clean water is also needed for agriculture, so reduced water means reduced food as well.

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    So let's say a comet dissolves in the atmosphere or something and covers most of the world's water with some poisonous crap. That would also explain how boiling seawater wouldn't work. You also have to consider that clean water is also needed for agriculture, so reduced water means reduced food as well.
    To be honest the reaction of the entirety of mankind would be "Oh." and "Crap." together in the same sentence. And i doubt it could cover the entire planet.

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    So let's say a comet dissolves in the atmosphere or something and covers most of the world's water with some poisonous crap. That would also explain how boiling seawater wouldn't work. You also have to consider that clean water is also needed for agriculture, so reduced water means reduced food as well.
    If a comet came that close, water would be the least of our troubles.
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    If a comet came that close, water would be the least of our troubles.
    Being fried by cosmo-fucksical rays would be one of the main ones.

  28. Post #28
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    February 2010
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    If a comet came that close, water would be the least of our troubles.
    Want to be a story consultant? Seriously, though, we'd likely shoot it down with a missile, but what if because of its unknown material or structure, instead of blowing up into small chunks it transforms into a powdery form, dissolves into the atmosphere and then falls to the Earth as rain? That would poison most of the Earth's water supply, I should think.

  29. Post #29
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    Don't even BOTHER with voice acting - it is guaranteed to suck, so you might as well use subtitles (like Giorgio Moroder's version of 'Metropolis') and call it a "Gmod silent movie"

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    How is it "guaranteed" to suck?

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    we'd likely shoot it down with a missile, but what if because of its unknown material or structure, instead of blowing up into small chunks it transforms into a powdery form, dissolves into the atmosphere and then falls to the Earth as rain?
    Yeah that'd work if comets had unknown material or structure, and if the comet was in extremely low-Earth orbit

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    It's like every kid on facepunch has the "I'm gonna make a gmod movie" phase.
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    Yeah that'd work if comets had unknown material or structure, and if the comet was in extremely low-Earth orbit
    It's not like we would have any other choice, it's either that or risk millions of civilian deaths.

    You know what, if you really want to criticize the story, apply to be a story consultant. Otherwise I'm ignoring this thread from now on. It looks like Facepunch is the wrong place to look for help unless you want a bunch of dicks.
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    It's not like we would have any other choice, it's either that or risk millions of civilian deaths.

    You know what, if you really want to criticize the story, apply to be a story consultant. Otherwise I'm ignoring this thread from now on. It looks like Facepunch is the wrong place to look for help unless you want a bunch of dicks.
    And that, my friends, is the attitude you use when you are looking for help. We can all learn from this man.

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    It's not like we would have any other choice, it's either that or risk millions of civilian deaths.

    You know what, if you really want to criticize the story, apply to be a story consultant. Otherwise I'm ignoring this thread from now on. It looks like Facepunch is the wrong place to look for help unless you want a bunch of dicks.
    We gave you advice, namely not to bother. If you want to ignore it, that's your prerogative.
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    You know what, if you really want to criticize the story, apply to be a story consultant. Otherwise I'm ignoring this thread from now on. It looks like Facepunch is the wrong place to look for help unless you want a bunch of dicks.
    No. You're the dick, You came into this section demanding help for a shoddy plot and a massive project you have no previous work to show us, From what i can tell your management skills are terrible and you can't take any form of criticism without calling people dicks.
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    No. You're the dick, You came into this section demanding help for a shoddy plot and a massive project you have no previous work to show us, From what i can tell your management skills are terrible and you can't take any form of criticism without calling people dicks.
    Same can be said for the mapping section people with "big projects"

    Oh, and the plot seems to be recycled. You need a twist. What I see is the usual "In the future, government corruption leads to this and that" spiel that fuckin' everybody uses. And the term "White Knight" would make sense if this was set in 1200's Europe.

  38. Post #38
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    How is it "guaranteed" to suck?
    All machinimas i've ever seen in my entire life have had crappy voice acting - so i would be surprised if your one didn't have it too

  39. Post #39
    All machinimas i've ever seen in my entire life have had crappy voice acting - so i would be surprised if your one didn't have it too
    You haven't watched much good machinima then.

    The good stuff is rare, but it's there.

  40. Post #40
    Lufttygger306's Avatar
    August 2010
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    You haven't watched much good machinima then.

    The good stuff is rare, but it's there.
    Well, Machinima.com is not the place to look