[antianan]

Yeah. And ironically, Independence day is still one of the best movies about alien invasion.
The great combination of drama, humor, idiocy and Will Smith

[npx190]

People that did not like this film, rent Skyline, then compare.

TheGoodDoctorF posted:

How can you? Ever since the writers strike, Hollywood has found out that you don't need original writing or new stories to make money. Just cryptic trailers, explosions and Michelle Rodriguez.

I can not think of a title before Battle LA, otherwise it was a long time since I saw something where she made it out alive, but then again she turned out not so dead when Eva Mendes revealed pictures to the Rock that she was alive at the end of the last Fast and Furious film.

Unrelated, I have to admit when I was playing Halo 3 ODST, and they take the alien vessels against the Covenant, I remembered the epic part in Independence Day when Will Smith stole their ship and was able to pawn against them. Who could forget "welcome to Earth space jurk!"

[Cpl. Combine]

Back_Slash posted:

Independence day.

the 5 minute shot of the Israelis and Iraqis in the desert really doesn't count.

wraithcat posted:

I admit I didn't see any direct inside jokes in the movie. As to using army material (marine, airforce whatever it's all an army to me :P) I was under the impression that most movie companies do it because it's massively cheaper for them than actually having the stuff themselves.

Plus I've never seen Battle: LA marketed as army propaganda - not in like America's army for instance.

it's actually more expensive form what I've read, it's cheaper to use privately owned props, but they're almost never accurate, for instance, with M1 Abrams tanks, a lot of movies use modified British challenger Is as stand ins, because some are privately owned.

as for it being propaganda, I didn't see that in there either, nor was it really marketed as such, but I think alot of people consider anything that doesn't show the American military as murderous oil drinking rapists is considered 'propaganda'

[Back_Slash]

What about all the countries gearing up?
then flying at the mother ship?

[Cpl. Combine]

What I meant was something that shows it a lot more in depth, like for instance, how each country responded to the initial invasion, maybe a story arc about the Unted Nations meeting and coming together, or like, scenes with say, different countries coordinating and attacking together, like the US and Canada, or China and Russia, you know a lot more than just 'oh and these guys are also doing something"

I guess you could say the old TV series space above and beyond was like that, but it was still very US centric.

[wraithcat]

Cpl. Combine posted:

What I meant was something that shows it a lot more in depth, like for instance, how each country responded to the initial invasion, maybe a story arc about the Unted Nations meeting and coming together, or like, scenes with say, different countries coordinating and attacking together, like the US and Canada, or China and Russia, you know a lot more than just 'oh and these guys are also doing something"

I guess you could say the old TV series space above and beyond was like that, but it was still very US centric.

Well you'd probably need a miniseries for that in the very least. But no matter what you'd do, the probability that you'd end with mostly anglophone countries being in the centerfold is pretty high.

[fury_161]

Cpl. Combine posted:

What I meant was something that shows it a lot more in depth, like for instance, how each country responded to the initial invasion, maybe a story arc about the Unted Nations meeting and coming together, or like, scenes with say, different countries coordinating and attacking together, like the US and Canada, or China and Russia, you know a lot more than just 'oh and these guys are also doing something"

I guess you could say the old TV series space above and beyond was like that, but it was still very US centric.

The thing is, it's an American made movie. You kind of have this issue (not the right word really) with a lot of big budget sci-fi/action movies. Hollywood is where the money is, so generally American filmmakers made movies about America, not about Uzbekistan. Unless the bad guys are there, then the camera occasionally pans over there to show some dirty guys with beards plotting.

Americans for the most part don't give a shit about the rest of the world. Not in movies, anyway. I don't mean any of this in an egotistical "USA IS NUMBER ONE" way, it's just an observation I've made. I'm not saying there are no good action movies made anywhere else, that's not the case at all. Just that a majority of the big budget ones are US made.

[lonefirewarrior]

It has nothing to do with not giving a shit, it the costs and convenience. Shipping people and equipment across the world costs way too much money than it's worth. No one has the money to send people all over the world for a few scenes. This is true with all movies, not just US movies.

District 9 was filmed and took place in South Africa because that's where the director was from.
Lord of the Rings was filmed in New Zealand because that's where Peter Jackson was from.
28 Days Later for the same reason was filmed in UK.

You film where it's most convenient. If any other country had a Hollywood-like entity, their movies would take place as nearby as possible too.

[wraithcat]

Not really. Shipping people is usually cheaper than the place. Which is why European studios have grown so much recently. A lot of american companies are shooting there. Also Lotr was filmed in new zealand due to the price of the location and the available scenery.

[DaysBefore]

Quite a lot of American movies are filmed in Canada because of the low costs, Vancouver and Toronto are pretty big film spots.

Would I like to see a movie about Canadians being the awesome, kickass hero's flying around in fighter jets blowing up aliens and having lots of sex with attractive women? Sure, but until Vancouver changes it's name to Hollywood, I won't hold my breath.

[CakeMaster7]

npx190 posted:

People that did not like this film, rent Skyline, then compare.

Oh god, Skyline was horrible. Was even stupider than Battle: LA.

[Cpl. Combine]

fury_161 posted:

The thing is, it's an American made movie. You kind of have this issue (not the right word really) with a lot of big budget sci-fi/action movies. Hollywood is where the money is, so generally American filmmakers made movies about America, not about Uzbekistan. Unless the bad guys are there, then the camera occasionally pans over there to show some dirty guys with beards plotting.

Americans for the most part don't give a shit about the rest of the world. Not in movies, anyway. I don't mean any of this in an egotistical "USA IS NUMBER ONE" way, it's just an observation I've made. I'm not saying there are no good action movies made anywhere else, that's not the case at all. Just that a majority of the big budget ones are US made.

Well yeah that is the obvious thing, and you're right, I really wouldn't be interested in a movie showing just the Swedish response to an alien invasion, but I'm sure that's how people in Sweden feel about stuff like battle LA and transformers haha.

I'm just saying it would be nice to see a movie or TV series that would appeal to almost everyone, and sent the message that everyone is in it together, realistically if we stood any kind of chance, we'd all have to come together, and really based on the way people from different countries interact on this forum, it makes me think we're kinda boned haha.

[fury_161]

Cpl. Combine posted:

Well yeah that is the obvious thing, and you're right, I really wouldn't be interested in a movie showing just the Swedish response to an alien invasion, but I'm sure that's how people in Sweden feel about stuff like battle LA and transformers haha.

I'm just saying it would be nice to see a movie or TV series that would appeal to almost everyone, and sent the message that everyone is in it together, realistically if we stood any kind of chance, we'd all have to come together, and really based on the way people from different countries interact on this forum, it makes me think we're kinda boned haha.

Yeah, but generally the film industry is about making a buck, not making a great movie.