1. Post #1
    BadZzch's Avatar
    February 2011
    51 Posts
    EDITED... I know dumb post, but I have righted the engine and it now is actually compact and ridiculously powerful.
    Find the link on my most recent post if curious.
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  2. Post #2
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    mecaguy03's Avatar
    December 2007
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    Honestly thats not all that compact, though it is thin and powerful. As for the bumping at high speeds, use a suspension. If you want to stop the wheels bouncing all together, that's nearly impossible, as its a problem with round models not truly being round. (It is really just a polygon with a lot of sides.)

  3. Post #3
    BadZzch's Avatar
    February 2011
    51 Posts
    Ah, thanks.. That actually explains how the first car I slapped it on went so smoothly, I didn't think of that.

  4. Post #4
    AnotherGuy's Avatar
    July 2010
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    There is no Gmod speed record. There's a source limit.
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  5. Post #5
    Hunta's Avatar
    March 2007
    907 Posts
    Well...

    Correct me if I'm wrong but that is just a single hydr engine?? Not sure where the new(ish) engine type is; Tbh I'm not seeing anything that hasn't been done before, I was expecting something more like -


    Increasing the weight of ALL the props doesnt mean it is super powerful, the weighting is all relative (especially when you've got a hydr with max force), you really need(ed) to make the engine light then have the car pulling something heavy.


    Please tell me if there is something I'm missing about the function of the engine but to me it just looks like a single hydr engine...

  6. Post #6
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    Dennab
    March 2010
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    I'm not exactly seeing anything here that hasn't been done (and done a lot) before. I mean, I'm sure it's useful and all, but I isn't by any means revolutionary or "new".

  7. Post #7
    BadZzch's Avatar
    February 2011
    51 Posts
    Yes, it is a single hydraulic engine, and the weight added actually was first done to keep the vehicle from flying off as it span the wheels so fast that they just caused the vehicle to bounce (700+ rpm). The weight indeed does add to the load as I had tugged as mentioned 500,000 units of phx plates (ill make a vid if wanted)... I'm actually curious though, I haven't really seen many similar engines, I have seen gyro, gps, and timing based ones, but I've yet to see one like this.. I'm not trying to be snappy, I'm simply curious if you could post me some videos as I'm thinking of simplifying it some more so I can add a few more chips to control which direction it goes with a button push. I also forgot to mention, one of the great features is that I can stack more wheels on frames to the engine and sync them with the primary wheel to double, triple, etc the engines power. The only issue is that it is no longer compact if I do. Lol, I guess I've been around nubby builders too long, ohhhh complacency.

    MEh... I thought there was some sort of speed record for engines.

  8. Post #8
    Hunta's Avatar
    March 2007
    907 Posts
    the weight added actually was first done to keep the vehicle from flying off as it span the wheels so fast that they just caused the vehicle to bounce (700+ rpm).
    >_<


    you aren't using the physics mod are you?

  9. Post #9
    BadZzch's Avatar
    February 2011
    51 Posts
    No I wasn't actually... The wheels just spin so fast that it wont stay on the ground! It makes me kinda mad cause when I try to pull something now the vehicle just does cart wheels... The drawback is that I made the wheel originally to run at 700+ so I could hitch it to a hyper torque tranny and vuala what do you know the gears slip at that speed even if they are tooth to tooth. IF I could fix that, then I could boost the engine power soooo much, but you know, garry and his bouncing and slipping gears -_-

  10. Post #10
    unrezt's Avatar
    August 2009
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    Uh....post dynamometer results if you are gonna throw around claims. Also; its not compact by any means.
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  11. Post #11
    BadZzch's Avatar
    February 2011
    51 Posts
    I have someone that has an rpm meter, Ill ask em and put em in the video when I can. And gerrrr that was already disscussed.

    AND FINALLY... I'll just have to make it smaller, lighter, and more powerful to please you all lol... I'll post that up, maybe a tiny tiny tiny tesla wheel is enough!

  12. Post #12
    unrezt's Avatar
    August 2009
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    I have someone that has an rpm meter, Ill ask em and put em in the video when I can. And gerrrr that was already disscussed.
    . . .

    Are you dumb?
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    August 2009
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    I have someone that has an rpm meter, Ill ask em and put em in the video when I can. And gerrrr that was already disscussed.

    AND FINALLY... I'll just have to make it smaller, lighter, and more powerful to please you all lol... I'll post that up, maybe a tiny tiny tiny tesla wheel is enough!
    A dynamometer is essentially what you're looking for, friend. RPMs don't account for a whole lot with engines.

  14. Post #14
    BadZzch's Avatar
    February 2011
    51 Posts
    "Are you dumb"
    No I simply didn't know what a dynamometer is and I gotz an iq of 140 thank you very much, and thanks bomb.. Also out of boredom I made an engine the size of the smallest tesla wheel and I have a vid (coming soon - youtube in read only mode)!
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  15. Post #15
    Bombardier.'s Avatar
    August 2009
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    "Are you dumb"
    No I simply didn't know what a dynamometer is and I gotz an iq of 140 thank you very much, and thanks bomb.. Also out of boredom I made an engine the size of the smallest tesla wheel and I have a vid (coming soon - youtube in read only mode)!
    You didnt take an online IQ test did you? I took one when I was 14, it told me I was smarter than Einstein. I bragged for a year.

    Also, you type like a teenage girl. :shobon:

  16. Post #16
    BadZzch's Avatar
    February 2011
    51 Posts
    a) no I was tested when I was 6 b) Eistein was the only human being to use over 20% of his brain or else you would have set a new world record c) NAAAA UHHHHH


    Also I gave up on youtube's read only mode so proof of the tiny engine is up for grabs here

    YES THEY ARE SAFE, these just give me cookies once and a while
    http://www.megaupload.com/?d=5Y07BLPX ITS A DLOAD

    hehhehehehehe I win the derp award and a cookie.. FESS UP!

  17. Post #17
    Hunta's Avatar
    March 2007
    907 Posts
    a) no I was tested when I was 6 b) Eistein was the only human being to use over 20% of his brain or else you would have set a new world record c) NAAAA UHHHHH
    ... point b is complete rubbish dude.

    I was more concerned with the 700+ rpm... gmod has a 600 rpm limit. Most engines can hit 600 rpm without too much trouble.



    On a different note, one day soon I'm going to re-build my best engine design and test that mofo out

  18. Post #18
    Pringles.'s Avatar
    May 2010
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    This isn't revolutionary. But, you managed to make an engine so good job I guess.

  19. Post #19
    EvacX's Avatar
    July 2010
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    This is dvdprui all over again.
    OP has an IQ of 140 and has made the most "compact" and "powerful" engine to date.
    It's a completely new type too, hydraulics! Who would have thought of that?
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    Dennab
    June 2010
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    This is dvdprui all over again.
    OP has an IQ of 140 and has made the most "compact" and "powerful" engine to date.
    It's a completely new type too, hydraulics! Who would have thought of that?
    He can't figure out how to record a decent video, he boasts WAY too much, he's using old build methods, building on flatgrass, he's kind of a 50-50 "troll/spaz", can't fucking merge a video to save his life, can't parent, knows little about sauce engine, and he can't even be bothered to do a google search to find this vid by grumpy .
    God, sounds way too familiar. Betcha he gets everyone pissed, and just as we all start to FLAME THE FUCK OUTTA HIM, he runs off laughing his ass off.


    I built the most compact engine to date! It's a tiny phx cube with like 3 million applytorque!
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  21. Post #21
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    October 2009
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    That engine is way too big, make it less tall please.
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  22. Post #22
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    a) no I was tested when I was 6 b) Eistein was the only human being to use over 20% of his brain or else you would have set a new world record c) NAAAA UHHHHH
    a) You sure have gotten really dumb since you were 6, b) No.
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  23. Post #23
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    This is now the most interesting thread in Contraptions.

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  24. Post #24
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    Dennab
    March 2010
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    I see some people are forgetting that post someone did at least a month ago. You know, about how this section seems to have an elitism problem? Actually, I think it was about how we were all flaming on Reaper for that 1 or 2 months, right?

    I understand that this kid doesn't seem all to bright, but give him a chance, damn. It takes balls to come on to this section and post with the confidence that he posted with, and it shouldn't. We should all be accepting of neat little things like this, as long as the person isn't a dick or a minge, and I don't see this kid as either. If you want to have an opinion, fine. Bud you don't have to be rude about it. Try actually helping him improve upon what he already has.


    As a note, most of you are doing fine, Evac and Reaper are the only ones I see being a bit rude.

    Ok, BadZzch, these two things should help a bit.
    This first one's Wenli's dynomometer. (http://www.facepunch.com/threads/104...ease-thread%29). I also have an RPM expression file that I'll give you too. I'll include instructions on how to use it. These are both packaged into a zip file that you can grab here: http://filesmelt.com/dl/Engine_Tools.zip
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  25. Post #25
    BadZzch's Avatar
    February 2011
    51 Posts
    Meh, no one reads the previous posts..
    YES I realize the first wasn't the most compact.
    Yes i probably lowered my iq via a few concussions via football.
    Yes I made a new one tiny as the single block found in phx general build materials (whatever its called) AND IT DOSENT USE APPLY FORCE RAWR as its a hydro powered engine.
    Yes this is quite the most popular thread.
    YEs I understand you all think it isn't revolutionary.
    Yes there are more powerful engines, but mine doesn't use applied force so blah.
    YES the vid is crappy cause I don't care about that, if it works don't fix it.
    No AGAIN there is no apply force/torque, both use a single hydro for the tiny and big one, I'm normally in crystal storm build if you want to see.

    Here's the smaller engine vid, it is hydro powered, but this is a proto and I haven't made a vehicle for it yet and the final will be more powerful than the bigger engine blah blah blah FLAME MATERIAL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBX7GNFj_PE

    100% guarantee someone will flame one of these points -_-

  26. Post #26
    One Ear Ninja's Avatar
    November 2009
    2,223 Posts
    1. Meh, no one reads the previous posts..
    2. YES I realize the first wasn't the most compact.
    3. Yes i probably lowered my iq via a few concussions via football.
    4. Yes I made a new one tiny as the single block found in phx general build materials (whatever its called) 5 AND IT DOSENT USE APPLY FORCE RAWR as its a hydro powered engine.
    5. Yes this is quite the most popular thread.
    6. YEs I understand you all think it isn't revolutionary.
    7. Yes there are more powerful engines, but mine doesn't use applied force so blah.
    8. YES the vid is crappy cause I don't care about that, if it works don't fix it.
    9. No AGAIN there is no apply force/torque, both use a single hydro for the tiny and big one, I'm normally in crystal storm build if you want to see.

    10. Here's the smaller engine vid, it is hydro powered, but this is a proto and I haven't made a vehicle for it yet and the final will be more powerful than the bigger engine blah blah blah FLAME MATERIAL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBX7GNFj_PE

    11. 100% guarantee someone will flame one of these points -_-
    1. Why do you think we'd be responding to you?
    2. Then why did you say "I've created a new super compact engine"?
    3.You admit you are stupid. If you admit that you're stupid, why would you want to fight people who you know have better points than you do? That's also an excuse.
    4. Anyone who knows anything can make an engine that small. Also, you might want to learn to type more coherently, callow one, and we never accused you of using applyforce, not that specific function would work anyway. I doubt you could even code something to spin a motor.
    5.How/why does that tie in? Sounds to me like you're just attempting to add content to a poorly written post.
    6. Think? By saying that, you're implying that we don't know if it isn't, and that you know it is, thus glorifying above people who are obviously better than you are.
    7.You're also implying that every other engine that's stronger uses applyforce, which still isn't the correct function. Also, nice job acting highfalutin, with "blah" at the end of that. It really shows how highly you think of yourself and/or how lowly you think of us.
    8.The video is bad. Yes, I know you stated that; however, most of it was filler, and it never really got the job done. It never even powered any vehicle; it never got the job it was supposed to get done.
    Also, embed.
    9.At least you got the function right, but that just seems like this point is just filler; I handled that same point above at 7.
    10. It is just flame material. If you're saying this, you have a blatant disregard for what anyone thinks, thus negated the purpose of posting it. Now you're to the point of bashing yourself because you know we will. The video also goes along with what I said in 7. If you really wanted to prove something, give us the IP of that server. I'm assuming you know how or what an IP is, right?
    11. Didn't flame one; I debated all of them. It also sounds like you're just attempting to avoid flaming by placing a "bet"
    Also,

    Meh, no one reads the previous posts. .
    Yes, I realize the first wasn't the most compact.
    Yes, I probably lowered my iq via a few concussions via football.
    Yes I made a new one tiny as the single block found in phx general build materials (whatever its called), and it doesn't use applyforce, "rawr", as its a hydro powered engine.
    Yes , this is quite the most popular thread.
    Yes, I understand you all think it isn't revolutionary.
    Yes, there are more powerful engines, but mine doesn't use applied force so blah.
    Yes, the vid is crappy 'cause I don't care about that; if it works don't fix it.
    No, again, there is no apply force/torque; both use a single hydro for the tiny and big one. I'm normally in crystal storm build if you want to see.

    Here's the smaller engine vid; it is hydro powered, but this is a proto and I haven't made a vehicle for it yet and the final will be more powerful than the bigger engine. Blah, blah, blah, flame material!

    I 100% guarantee someone will flame one of these points. -_-

  27. Post #27
    BadZzch's Avatar
    February 2011
    51 Posts
    Vuala -_- I'll grab the ip (suprise Im actually a tech intern at columbia university at the age of 17 GASP) when i'm able to get on as I'ma typing a paper (procrastination :P). herp derp -a- lerp...
    In the meanwhile if you want to see the server, its at the beginning of the list (gm_crystalbuild)

    ps never said i was stupid that was supposed to be funny hardy har har
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  28. Post #28
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    I pity anybody who posted in this thread..
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  29. Post #29
    BadZzch's Avatar
    February 2011
    51 Posts
    :D I'm just that bored enough to continue, lol prolly will forget about it after meh paper (page 20 bitches!!!)

  30. Post #30
    Hunta's Avatar
    March 2007
    907 Posts
    Meh, I don't have a problem with this dude - I think a lot of people just play with minges and gmod noobs so long that they get a messed up view of gmod.

    Its more the, 'HEY GUYS THIS THING IS MADE IS THE BEST EVAR" that annoys people- if you come in more modest then there probably wouldn't be such a ragin.

  31. Post #31
    BadZzch's Avatar
    February 2011
    51 Posts
    Very true, I haven't seen any more than two engines In a year of playing GMOD that were different (I was very excited when I made the engine and I rushed to post)... flapper and pistons engines, I thought I really innovated. I am curious though, does anyone know any good engine vids cause I am aiming to match any non applied force ones.

  32. Post #32
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    Dennab
    March 2010
    3,925 Posts
    Very true, I haven't seen any more than two engines In a year of playing GMOD that were different (I was very excited when I made the engine and I rushed to post)... flapper and pistons engines, I thought I really innovated. I am curious though, does anyone know any good engine vids cause I am aiming to match any non applied force ones.
    Well, I have some 24 Youtube videos, many of them being engines, 2 of them being a tutorial. Not to shamelessly plug, but: http://www.youtube.com/user/mwhite112393

  33. Post #33
    Needs more suspension.
    Dennab
    February 2006
    4,484 Posts
    There is no Gmod speed record. There's a source limit.
    there is for wheeled, engine powered vehicles- and that's 102 mph or so. winston and i have broken that record unofficially.

  34. Post #34
    Dennab
    June 2010
    2,040 Posts
    Opie, not to be mean but we're not impressed by "I hit 600rpm". :colbert:
    this

    came outta this

    6 ton engine
    It'll make 10 tons of wheels on a fifty-ton train chassis spin out like a drag racer, and puts out, at low RPM, something like 20,000 foot-pounds of torque. Typical redreaper engine--super heavy, works best at ~60rpm, has a governor. Nothin' but tork tork tork. If you can put out that much power from a comparitive sized 8-ton engine (without your crankshaft exploding), we'll talk.
    Opie, always, for the love of god, come in humble. FP will flame you for many, many things, sometimes way out of proportion to what you did. Best advice you can get: LURK. Watch other people. Learn who posts what and what pisses off who, then don't piss them off.
    As for the engine itself, it's not a bad design, just kind of "meh". Multiple hydraulics might help increase the torque.
    Opie seems to have been living in a box...

  35. Post #35
    BadZzch's Avatar
    February 2011
    51 Posts
    Ok I saw some of them and I came up with oneeee question. Does anyone have an ideal setting for damping and constants as I'm trying to make my super small engine use multiple hydros, but at the firing point it runs into a little stiffness causing a tiny loss of motion (keeping me from hitting 800+ rpm standalone).

  36. Post #36
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    Dennab
    March 2010
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    Set damping to 0 and the constant at 50000, as far as I know those are the ideal settings.
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  37. Post #37
    BadZzch's Avatar
    February 2011
    51 Posts
    Thanks and sadly I forgot until two minutes ago that it won't dupe the const and damp with adv dupe and TB's duplictor isn't available in many servers. Anyhow ill cut out for now heres the ip of were to find meh 75.140.251.204:27016. <--- crystal storm!
    I'll be wise next time and when I post, I'll ensure that the engine is ridiculously compact and ridiculously powerful -_- (working on it now - herp derp).

  38. Post #38
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    March 2008
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    b) Eistein was the only human being to use over 20% of his brain or else you would have set a new world record
    You don't watch Mythbusters then

    They used an average of 30% if I don't remember wrong

  39. Post #39
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    February 2007
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    there is for wheeled, engine powered vehicles- and that's 102 mph or so. winston and i have broken that record unofficially.
    Go on, fuck my face.

  40. Post #40
    ItWasNiceToKnow's Avatar
    July 2009
    1,256 Posts
    Go on, fuck my face.
    TAKE A STEP BACK
    AND LITERALLY
    FUCK YOUR OWN FACE

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