1. Post #1
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    GO TO PAGE 2 FOR LESS HORRIBLE VERSION

    this was going to be for the comp but it's more like 'oh fuck breakkkkk' than 'i'll take all you cunts with me'



    fuck the f-35 hornets and pigs forever no mods no masters
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    The flares look really low detail, the yellow light being cast doesn't match their colour, the smoke effects look very 2D (and their direction seems to infer the plane is travelling in a very odd motion), the afterburner effect looks like a cartoony PS2 flight game, the missile's path doesn't make any sense, looks like you didn't bother to pose a pilot and the motion-blur is just harsh on the eyes.

    Seriously you can do way better than this because I have seen better from you many times before.
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  3. Post #3
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    flares as a general rule don't look too detailed. they're too bright to look directly at safely from close up, being magnesium and all. smoke is shit because i'm bad at smoke; i'm working on it. burners didn't come out how i wanted, i guess i'll have to play with that next time to make sure it looks right.

    missile's path is meant to infer the hornet has been jinking like all fuck to try get away, but owing to 2d smoke, i can see how it looks fucked. not much foreshortening or anything there.

    mo-blur is to get some speed happening - it was the map or the planes, and i crack the shits when people blur the planes rather than the background.

    Edited:

    also FUCK the caps filter for ruining my title

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    Everything is good there is nothing wrong with it!!!
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  5. Post #5
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    get out of my thread

  6. Post #6
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    flares as a general rule don't look too detailed. they're too bright to look directly at safely from close up, being magnesium and all.


    Look at photo. To your picture. Back to the photo. Back to me.

    Your flares are just a white soft brush that was duplicated and blurred with some colour. They look like they are floating with no motion and they aren't casting any light on the smoke.

    missile's path is meant to infer the hornet has been jinking like all fuck to try get away, but owing to 2d smoke, i can see how it looks fucked. not much foreshortening or anything there.
    I guess it's the rubbish perspective on the smoke that makes it look like the missile has done numerous high-g turns within the space of 200m then (nb: missiles can't do that).

    mo-blur is to get some speed happening -
    Explaining why you did it doesn't change anything - I already knew why you did it. I'm just saying it looks crap.
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    Everything is perfect, there is nothing wrong with this picture at all.
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  8. Post #8
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    my bad, i thought you meant the flare itself, not the smoke. yeah, i went light on it because i know my smoke is rubbish. i wish i could've done otherwise, but it would've looked even worse. i guess next time i might just have to cheat and use a smoke brush. as for not lighting the smoke - fair cop, and well spotted. i totally forgot.

    missile is meant to have made those turns over several hundred metres (like, nearly a kilometre, perhaps more), but shit perspective. i'm pretty unhappy with it myself.

    Edited:

    gurne you are a big trolling babby get out faggot

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    I can't appreciate the fine art of Jets but it doesn't look like there's anyone in there.

  10. Post #10
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    there is, he's just really badly drawn and really really dark

    Edited:

    since we can all agree the picture is rubbish, how's the skin?

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    could use bumpmapping

    and if it is bumpmapped it could use more bumpmaps.

    More intense bumpmaps.

  12. Post #12
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    Ross, why are you such a hypocrite? When you criticize someone and they start making excuses for everything you tell them that they should... Ugh... Stop making excuses for everything. And yet, look at what you are doing.
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    i'm not making excuses. learn to read. i acknowledged i fucked a lot of shit up.

    jesus christ, can't i post anywhere on this forum without someone jumping on me for it?

    Edited:

    actually, being that i still have the raw psd (i think), i might fuck with this later. not tomorrow, too much going on.

  14. Post #14
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    Sorry. I really like your works, your collection inspired me to get back into GMod, it's just that I can't stand any form of hypocrisy at all.


    flares as a general rule don't look too detailed. they're too bright to look directly at safely from close up, being magnesium and all.

    mo-blur is to get some speed happening - it was the map or the planes, and i crack the shits when people blur the planes rather than the background.

    there is, he's just really badly drawn and really really dark


    That's what I mean.

    We cool?

  15. Post #15
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    If you wouldn't mind me asking...
    Why the fuck is he dropping his external fuel/radar jammers? That makes no sense to me... Isn't he trying to avoid a missile not get his ass blown up quicker?
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    If you wouldn't mind me asking...
    Why the fuck is he dropping is external fuel/radar jammers? That makes no sense to me... Isn't he trying to avoid a missile not get his ass blown up quicker?
    If I'm not mistaken, he has watched "Behind enemy lines" recently. And there is a scene there where the pilots of a jet-fighter drop their fuel tanks to cause a fire ball to confuse a couple of rockets that were fired at them.


    Wild guess.

  17. Post #17
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    It looks like theres no pilot.

  18. Post #18
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    If you wouldn't mind me asking...
    Why the fuck is he dropping his external fuel/radar jammers? That makes no sense to me... Isn't he trying to avoid a missile not get his ass blown up quicker?
    External fuel tanks are supposed to be jettisoned before a contact because they weigh the aircraft down and prevent it from maneuvering as well as it might.
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    External fuel tanks are supposed to be jettisoned before a contact because they weigh the aircraft down and prevent it from maneuvering as well as it might.
    Ah. I just didn't see why at first... At the 100 yard point the maneuver is generally, "Bend over, and kiss your ass good bye"
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    Ah. I just didn't see why at first... At the 100 yard point the maneuver is generally, "Bend over, and kiss your ass good bye"
    Yeah, flares won't do anything at that range - the missile wouldn't be able to change direction fast enough anyway.

    Edited:

    People also seem to think that missiles blow up when they get to the flares for some reason too... which is what seems to happen a lot in films and game cinematics and stuff. All they do is fly to the heat source of the flares and then pass them because they are so small and harmlessly fly off in the wrong direction until they run out of fuel and fall on some poor granny's house.
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  21. Post #21
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    Yup. Remember guys... Missiles work on the same factor as your dicks do. Does it tap that?

  22. Post #22
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    Background looks cheesy, I agree with Chesty about the flares, everything else looks fine, I like the color scheme and the motion blur on the missles and background.

  23. Post #23
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    What the hell happened? The composition's awful, the angle's awful, the editing is sub-par, and there's hardly any atmosphere.

    After all the big fuss you make over people's pictures, you'd think you would be able to make something better.
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  24. Post #24
    Dennab
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    I think the watermark in the corner is the best part of this pic

  25. Post #25
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    What the hell happened? The composition's awful, the angle's awful, the editing is sub-par, and there's hardly any atmosphere.

    After all the big fuss you make over people's pictures, you'd think you would be able to make something better.
    Ha, as if you make any decent screenshots
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  26. Post #26
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    i'm not making excuses. learn to read. i acknowledged i fucked a lot of shit up.

    jesus christ, can't i post anywhere on this forum without someone jumping on me for it?

    Edited:

    actually, being that i still have the raw psd (i think), i might fuck with this later. not tomorrow, too much going on.
    or you can stay the fuck off facepunch
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  27. Post #27
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    Sorry. I really like your works, your collection inspired me to get back into GMod, it's just that I can't stand any form of hypocrisy at all.

    That's what I mean.

    We cool?
    i was explaining why i fucked up. describe to me exactly how that is even vaguely similar to some scrublet crying because their favourite picture is rubbish. i realise this is rubbish, which is why i'm thinking about going back and redoing it.

    e/ also point out to me how informing someone that there is a pilot is hypocritical and/or making an excuse. it's correcting an incorrect statement. the pilot is really poorly done, i acknowledged that.

    What the hell happened? The composition's awful, the angle's awful, the editing is sub-par, and there's hardly any atmosphere.

    After all the big fuss you make over people's pictures, you'd think you would be able to make something better.
    i know what things should look like, but i'm terrible at doing it myself. i've been telling people for years i'm terrible at everything, but it seems even i am not safe from having people come and white knight for me... against myself. what the fuck.

    or you can stay the fuck off facepunch
    same way you can stay the fuck out of this thread, although fp is certainly the worst forum i've ever seen. this place is even worse than gbs. i can't believe i'm actually saying that, but the evidence is everywhere.

    Edited:

    oh, and about the flares being useless thing - that's the idea. he's totally screwed, but he's punching them out anyway to make himself feel better if nothing else.

  28. Post #28
    Dennab
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    Why'd you get dumbs? The picture looks nice. Lighting and smoke is great. The orange glow looks like it could have used some motion blur too, but whatever. I think you guys are over-analyzing it.

    And for Facepunch being full of assholes and shit, that's true. There's a fair amount of decent content here and there, but calm down. If you don't like the forum then leave, nobody's making you stay, but it's really not that bad. I've grown numb to the majority of idiots on the forums.
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    i would leave this place in a heartbeat if i had anywhere else to post my shit (and if the good posters came with me, i love you guys :smith:)

    they're right though, it's shit. it needs a total overhaul and it'll get one.

    anyone got smoke tips? that seems to be the biggest letdown in a lot of my pictures

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    e/ also point out to me how informing someone that there is a pilot is hypocritical and/or making an excuse. it's correcting an incorrect statement. the pilot is really poorly done, i acknowledged that.
    Yeah, well he is there, it's just too dark to see him and it doesn't look like he is there, but he is there, I know he is.



    Sorry, but it sounds like some UFO tale.

    [tab]And I saw giant flashing lights and little gray men! Nobody else saw them, BUT I AM TELLING THE TRUTH, they were there.[/tab]

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    i would leave this place in a heartbeat if i had anywhere else to post my shit (and if the good posters came with me, i love you guys :smith:)

    they're right though, it's shit. it needs a total overhaul and it'll get one.

    anyone got smoke tips? that seems to be the biggest letdown in a lot of my pictures
    Your smoke lacks variation, which makes it look two dimensional. Depending on how dense the smoke is, it can serve as an object, which casts shadows, therefore, it'll have highlight and shadows, just like any other object. Like in this picture.



    The other mistake that you make is that your smoke sometimes has more depth on the edges, rather than in the center. Very evident when you look at the trails the flares are making. Compare with real smoke. Decent looking girl included.



    Last but not least - perspective. I am not going to comment on that, I'm just going to show you two minutes of impressive MS Paint work.

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    Ha, as if you make any decent screenshots
    If I said something that dumb I would shave my ass and shave and shoot myself. You do realize vman is one of the best in this forum?
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    If I said something that dumb I would shave my ass and shave and shoot myself. You do realize vman is one of the best in this forum?
    You do realize that was sarcasm?
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    The plane ain't looking like an f15, is it an f18 ?

    Edited:

    Oh nevermind, I just noticed you said hornet.

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    I give you artistic because I dig Air Force shit above anything else. Since there isn't any new C&C I can make, I shall leave it at that.

    Wait, fuck the F-35 and the A-10? FUCK YOU!

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    Sure the flares lack detail but fuck it is still better than 90 percent of the stuff on here..

  36. Post #36
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    thanks. i'll start unfucking it tomorrow, hopefully. right now i'm too busy shitting myself with excitement over some news i just got which i can't tell you fucks about. oh, and mate, she's a little more than 'decent'.

    I give you artistic because I dig Air Force shit above anything else. Since there isn't any new C&C I can make, I shall leave it at that.

    Wait, fuck the F-35 and the A-10? FUCK YOU!
    no, i never said fuck the a-10. the a-10 owns. fuck the f-35 though, it is overrated and is a total woftam. in this digger's humble opinion, the raaf should've either forced the yanks to give us a few raptors, or just moseyed on over to the russians and bought up a shitload of su-35s. both are far superior planes to the f-35. the f-111 is also far better and i know it costs an ungodly amount to keep flying due to its age, but jesus. it's still the fastest, longest-ranged strike aircraft in our entire corner of the globe, and they want to replace it with a sort-of-stealth fighter with a fraction of the range and payload. ughghhg.

    Sure the flares lack detail but fuck it is still better than 90 percent of the stuff on here..
    that's depressing.
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    that's depressing.
    i know. ._.

  38. Post #38
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    where do you find those jet fighter models with the landing gear UP, seriously all the models ive seen are with the gear down

  39. Post #39
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    He edited it out

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    Dennab
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    i know. ._.
    You are in that percentage, so am I.