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EDIT: NEW VIDEO IS UP -- ADJUSTED THE VOLUME AND ADDED A MISSING VOICE TRACK
Sorry about the volume inconsistencies with the people's voices, when I dragged the clips over into the trailer's project file it screwed with some of them. It will be fine on the full movie.
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The music is too loud
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I'm going to go back and do a second edit -- too many complaints about the audio.
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Captain comedy lines are bad, you may need to have them re-recorded.
the editing was bad to IE the pacing
IE the meaningless space shot at 1 minute in was too long.
the posing too at some points..
IE the black guy reviving, and the guy holding he clip board being green screen..
and use some color correction on a few shots, hell use it just on the green screen so the guy isn't bright bright purple and yelling "green screening was used right here, and quite hastily too"
Audio
Greenscreening
pacing
is my major issue here.
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Lol ok
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Looks pretty cool.
I laughed at the end though...
Stay... Away... Fff.
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Fiddlesticks, that editing was seriously awful by your standards
GLINT EVERYWHERE
ALIASING EVERYWHERE
Piss-poor compositing (although I applaud your choice of background assets)
And to top it all, at the end, LENS FLARE (which makes everything better)
Also, I feel I must mention that the music was over-the-top... way over-the-top.
I'd give it a 6/10
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The only excuse I'll give you was for the editing. I've never cut a trailer before, and so I just did my best dragging clips into it. I have to take 10-ish minutes (at this point that's how much i've finished) and condense it into two minutes, so it just makes it somewhat difficult :P
The rest, alright.
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A lot of people have made this mistake. The citizen's uniform turns blue when a chroma key is involved. Use a MAGENTA screen if you have to but why does everyone do this?
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its really easy to fix, takes 2 minutes.
ive told fumples how to fix it, its just laziness.
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No, I know how to fix it, but here's the thing:
It's the difference between purple and blue during a 30 second scene. It's not really a huge issue in my book.
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its a sign of fucking laziness, its a fluke everyone makes due to them not putting effort forwards.
heres a common example
a hud is shown for 5 seconds.
its a common problem
its a sign of laziness
and it is commonly due to people not putting effort forward.
the fix for the purple shits is just as easy as using a command in console to remove the hud.
fix your mistakes, stop trying to make excuse's
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Okay, now let's look back at Meet the Zombine thread.
Someone says:
http://www.facepunch.com/showpost.ph...23&postcount=7
You respond with:
http://www.facepunch.com/showpost.ph...67&postcount=8
Sorry, don't accept criticism from hypocrites.
Maybe before you tell people to fix their mistakes and don't make excuses, you should fix your own mistakes and don't make excuses. You're pathetic, buddy.
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I don't try and claim my trailers are "EIPIC" (sic)
stop trying to take shit i said to a troll, hypocritical or not, you're being lazy.
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Fumples. I respect the fact that the trailer was put together from a collaboration of a much longer piece. I will admit this was not your best entry. The one voice actor was not good; he needs to redo his lines. If the whole film is like this, you need to redo it. I will not lie. I am a fan of your work, and will always be. I have to agree with scoutking tho. You are being lazy, for the trailer at least. Remember Fumples. Its not what you want, its the consumer. As a consumer I am telling you this.
Good luck with the project.
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Hello people I can't be arsed to make a color correction fix for my chroma keying then saving it as a preset I could easily drag on all the clips that need to be fixed
My name is Fumples
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Thanks the the words, Mendel. While I will agree that the trailer was not cut well, I can assure all of you that the completed product will be much better paced, edited and such.
As for the voice, I cannot do anything about it. There's nothing WRONG with it, however if you're unhappy with it that's not my problem :)
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As for color correction, I've used it in almost every scene, however I must have accidentally skipped past it while editing the movie. I understand that it's a different color than it should be, but it's not particularly a sign of laziness. I work hard to make my films the best I can make them. I'm not being lazy. Also, I'm a somewhat colorblind so I don't really see the shirt being purple.. :P
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really
i didn't notice it
we didn't say it was the most important part, but when you're trying to do something that looks like a movie, every single little detail counts
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It's there.
And every detail counts, but last time I checked someone's shirt doesn't need to be a specific color. Do you criticize a movie because you don't like the protagonist's shirt? Not really.
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"hey look everyone my shirt just changed its color when depth of field appeared"
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Different environment. Different lighting. Anyways that scene as you'll find out in the movie is not actually real.
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Thought I'd point out that this is wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong and wrong.
I make a film, I make it because I want to make it. So do any of you here like Avatar? James Cameron listened to consumers and he made that movie. I'm sure none of you here liked it for the exact reason that James Cameron tried appealing to the general public.
So I don't mean to offend you, but it's not what you want. You don't get what you want. I get what I want the film to be, regardless of any of your opinions.
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good luck with your project man
also, why are you overusing the Male 07 models?
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I'm not much of a video guy, but I die a little inside every time I see citizen uniforms being used in a sci-fi environment. The reskin of your main character looks like it came straight from 2005, it really kills the environment you're trying to create.
I mean, I've made stuff that can be used specifically for this purpose.
Besides that, most of the things I saw wrong have already been addressed, and it was better then most of the stuff here.
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Clearly you're all intimidated by Fumples' e-peen
Also, I don't think you guys get the fact this is a fucking Machinima. He made it for fun, and he doesn't get paid, he does it in his own spare time. It does not have to be fucking perfect. Admittedly it would be nice, but everyone makes mistakes in their movies. And if you don't, then you clearly have too much time on your hands.
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Pretty much.
I don't even make this for YouTube popularity. I make it just because it's fun making them. You guys completely remove the 'just for fun' aspect of it and act like this is a serious production. Which it is, to some extent, but not to the extent that it's being taken. Sorry, you guys are still on a forum talking shit about a 16 year old's video that he works on when he's not at school. We're not in Paramount's studios here.
Enjoy the video, that's all I ask. Okay, I made a character's the wrong color. So? What are you going to do, shave a point off of your bullshit little rating scale because of it?
Entertain me some more, I dare you.
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I agree with Godly's statement.
Granted, when posting in a forum like this, you're pretty much telling people to post criticism (even though nowhere did I see you ask for it), and a lot of people don't know how to deliver constructive criticism without putting some kind of offense in (or in Lt_C's case, shamelessly plugging his own work, although the uniforms are quite nice).
That being said, great job, I say. Perfect? No, but very much worth watching. Certainly better than my own GMOD skills.
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well you are spending a lot of time into it, it would be nice if you didn't fixed some easy mistakes.
also again stop making excuses
also I think you do care a little about the quality of your movies
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you scream faolco1 alt.
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Im talking about the mistakes, the consumer doesn't want to see that; It turns a lot of people off. You said the actual movie will be better, and I have no doubt that it will be. Like you I do this as a hobby and out of my own time, so I have to respect that. As I said I really enjoy your work and I am sure this entry will be no different.
Your DOP is superb, you know what you are doing and the time you devote to your work is why I am such a fan.
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Thank you for being realistic. I understand it's not perfect, I am not being serious. And Lt_C WAS plugging his own work, but still it's actually pretty good. I may use it later, may not.
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Okay, I understand what you mean now. I thought you meant how the film was going to be made. Thanks for the word.
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don't call bloody murder on someone who has a different opinion than you do, it's not mat
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I was advertising, no doubt, but it's frustrating when I and other custom content creators put a great deal of effort into something and the target audience doesn't even know it exists.
I wasn't, however, telling you that the selection of default models was bad because I want you to use my stuff, it was bad because it just doesn't fit with the story and can ruin the aesthetics of the piece. Use whatever you find; there is always something in the releases section that will fit the bill. Half of the props and characters from mass effect have recently been released, they'd work great for this. Take a look in the screenshot and comics sections. Nothing that people put great effort into used all vanilla models.
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To be honest, I don't like to use lots of user-created content because some people dislike it when you use their models and such without permission, and I don't want to deal with the trouble :P
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16th September 2010 Last edited by Captain Ringo; 16th September 2010 at 06:01PM. (Bad Spelling...)
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Alright here's some problems I see in it:
- At some parts the music is too loud and overtakes the voices
- The propulsion effects look really weird to me, not a fan of them
- The green screening for some of the shots inside the ship just looks bad. The background is too blurry at times. Plus the detail on the characters just doesn't look right at all.
- Your voice actors sound bored and don't show to much enthusiasm
- Your ratcheting focus for the part at 0:48 is good for the first guy, but going back to the other guy was just over using it.
- 1:12 on the music is way way to loud.
How to fix them:
- Turn your music down! We need to be able to hear what the characters are saying.
- Get your voice actors to show a little more emotion when they are speaking. If you want the video to connect with people, having more believable characters allows the viewers to connect.
- Watch your focus! Sure focusing solely on the character will show more emotion and allow you to focus on what they are saying. But having just them in focus gets boring and bland after a while. Show some background when they talk.
- Never over use a shot. The same shot for 7 seconds and longer is too long and you will lose the attention of the viewer.
- Change up your shots during conversations. As I stated above your shot at 0:48 was boring and didn't look right. Instead of having it refocus on the second guy, have it transfer to just a shot of his face showing an emotional response.
These are just some of my little niches I see in the video.
Yes this may just be just a fun video, but why not improve on this little hobby of yours.
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Thanks for the criticisms. I will switch up that one shot you told me about as well as I can.
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Just a note, you shouldn't refer to yourself or others as the consumer, seeing as he isn't making it for you, just a note buddy.
This is the perfect example of what people should be saying, it doesn't HAVE to include how to fix things, but he's not critical like a jackass.
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Scoutking mentioned that you were having a discussion in here about the film, so I'll just post what I posted in the other thread.
"The plot sounds like it lacks in any creativity at all, just a mass of typical plot lines, clichés and bland characters."
When will you guys stop fucking talking about editing and focus on something that’s more important, like the script? Also, stop having the same arguments you have been having for months. I haven’t been in this thread for a long while, I come back and you still flaming over the same thing.
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A trailer is supposed to give the viewer a taste of what the final movie will be like.
I understand you think the plot is cliched and such -- what problem do you have with it? WHAT is cliche, WHAT is typical about the plot?
And regarding the plot -- If I gave you 1000 guesses you'd not be able to guess the ending.
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‘All hope is lost after a major catastrophe, the fate of the human race lies of one man despite overwhelming situations.’
The thing is this doesn’t always lead to bad films/games/comics, Look at Half-life for example. However when you leave it on its own with an extremely bland sci-fi concept with no interesting ideas to support it, it leaves the audience to focus on the poor and simple plot as described above.
Though, I’ll wait till you send me a more descriptive plot. I could be very wrong.
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Well yeah, who really cares if the shirt is purple or blue. That's not going to destroy the film, bad shots, poor voice acting and a lacking plot is what destroys a film.
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Cool.
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Well, allow me to retort! The name isn't buddy and if he wasn't making it for "ME" he wouldn't of posted it here. He posted it here for publicity and the publicity comes from the consumers who watch it. That's all I'm going to say.
Dumb x 1
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